http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_transfers/blog/6532078/173471.html in  Papadopulos Toure Wanyama Eriksen Out Carroll Coates (loan) Z in  Papadopulos Toure Wanyama Eriksen Out Carroll Coates (loan) Z Wed, 22 May 2013 16:17:21 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_transfers/blog/6532078/173471.html aalfc123 2013-05-22T16:17:21Z The Kop in  Papadopulos Toure Wanyama Eriksen Out Carroll Coates (loan) Z nonadult false transfers text blog 79 2 1.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46464582&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_A.jpg false 0 0 6532078 46464582 Kopite 10150 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_3-3/blog/6532076/173471.html Just to remember something nice lads,.and you all know whay  I mean,.on this Saturday the 25 we will celebrate Istanbul, not so far away our lads wrote in the football books, a chapter in the history of football, not only of Liverpool f.c. There is really not much to say indeed, we have that day at our hearts, forever. And just to add optimism, if we could dominate Europe not so far ago,.we have also the right to not only dream again in another cup, we have the legitimate right to expect that our club is prepared to jump to glory again, it is our right, our dreams, legacy and the obligation of the owners. This is not a " surprise Institution",.5 stars at Europe have us the right to " demand" an honest and comited work with our club. So this why we must expect respect to our club, respect. That is why i write these words,.step by step,.but with a clear goal, no strange shorcuts to our dreams and rights are allowed, dreams are not on sale, and not on a marketing store,.I expect that the new season will bring us all, a strong message that we are on that way. Nothing more, nothing less. I am not realistic ?,..3 for 3 dreaming made Istanbul. [image] See you all guys. cheers Istanbul and the future that belongs to us, wim ynwa jft96   Just to remember something nice lads,.and you all know whay  I mean,.on this Saturday the 25 we will celebrate Istanbul, not so far away our lads wrote in the football books, a chapter in the history of football, not only of Liverpool f.c. There is really not much to say indeed, we have that day at our hearts, forever. And just to add optimism, if we could dominate Europe not so far ago,.we have also the right to not only dream again in another cup, we have the legitimate right to expect that our club is prepared to jump to glory again, it is our right, our dreams, legacy and the obligation of the owners. This is not a " surprise Institution",.5 stars at Europe have us the right to " demand" an honest and comited work with our club. So this why we must expect respect to our club, respect. That is why i write these words,.step by step,.but with a clear goal, no strange shorcuts to our dreams and rights are allowed, dreams are not on sale, and not on a marketing store,.I expect that the new season will bring us all, a strong message that we are on that way. Nothing more, nothing less. I am not realistic ?,..3 for 3 dreaming made Istanbul. [image] See you all guys. cheers Istanbul and the future that belongs to us, wim ynwa jft96   Wed, 22 May 2013 15:47:25 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_3-3/blog/6532076/173471.html WILLEM52 2013-05-22T15:47:25Z Legends The Kop Just to remember something nice lads,.and you all know whay  I mean,.on this Saturday the 25 we will celebrate Istanbul, not so far away our lads wrote in the football books, a chapter in the history of football, not only of Liverpool f.c. There is really not much to say indeed, we have that day at our hearts, forever. And just to add optimism, if we could dominate Europe not so far ago,.we have also the right to not only dream again in another cup, we have the legitimate right to expect that our club is prepared to jump to glory again, it is our right, our dreams, legacy and the obligation of the owners. This is not a " surprise Institution",.5 stars at Europe have us the right to " demand" an honest and comited work with our club. So this why we must expect respect to our club, respect. That is why i write these words,.step by step,.but with a clear goal, no strange shorcuts to our dreams and rights are allowed, dreams are not on sale, and not on a marketing store,.I expect that the new season will bring us all, a strong message that we are on that way. Nothing more, nothing less. I am not realistic ?,..3 for 3 dreaming made Istanbul. [image] See you all guys. cheers Istanbul and the future that belongs to us, wim ynwa jft96   legends nonadult false 3- 3 text blog legends 60 6 5.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=30753673&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18338819_173471_30753673_ap_160X120.jpg false 1 Legends 0 6532076 30753673 On the Bench 571720 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_How-quickly-things-can-change/blog/6532074/173471.html We had a nightmare start to the season, a combination of bad summer transfer ,departure of some experienced squad palyers leaving a young thin squad to cope with what was one of the most difficult run of starting fixtures I can remember, and a new manager with a new playing style. The squad understandably considering the players available found it difficult, many teams above us at this time must have wondered what was happening to Liverpool. It was at this time and possibly until xmas , the squad was finding not only its feet with the new style but also Rodgers finding which combination of players would give the club its best starting Eleven. We were scoring but conceeding silly goals, it was at this point that some were questioning the capabilities of our coaching defensively and comparisons and even the call for the return of Steve Clarke as maybe manager replacing Rodgers. West brom were flying and were rubbing shoulders with the big boys. Now i like Steve clarke he is a good football man , but what is my point , well the point is that even with such a great defensive coach now manager west brom leaked over 17 more goals over the season than Liverpool. What does this prove, well certainly it doesnt prove the ability of Clarke was any the less, more that our fragile defence at the first part of the season had improved dramatically over the course of 38 games.  There seems to be the myth that we leaked goals like an old sieve leaks water , in fact we conceeded the same amount as champions Man United, was there talk of their defensive frailties, if so it was kept very quiet. Only 3 teams scored more and 4 teams conceeded less than us . A fair indicator that the squad we have with a few additions has the ability to progress to a level that was once taken for granted, but has only been evident in short flashes. The younger players will be more mentally stronger with last season under their belt.  Our support sometimes can be over analytical and critical , a trait brought about by 20 odd years in the Football wilderness. When Shankly built the first great Dynasty it was a lot easier , supporters used to mediocrity of the 50s were just as keen for success but realised that to reverse years of neglect wouldnt happen overnight and were content to trust the manager in his dealings , even if in the first couple of seasons the goal of going from a mid table second division club to First division Champions seemed to be painfully slow. Todays Supporter (not All) brought up on the legacy of winning everything  in the 70s and 80s does not seem to have such patience and expect instant success, expecting owners to shell out obscene sums of money to quickly realise the dream, reluctant or oblivious to the fact that bought success very rarely lasts. I am content with the progress made , we have the foundations of the squad now in my opinion in place, the hardest task is getting the foundations right , the great teams Liverpool. Real, Barca , Inter , Ajax and yes Man u , found it easier once that first foundation  had been successfully completed to keep the momentum going. Replacing like for like when needed on the playing field.       We had a nightmare start to the season, a combination of bad summer transfer ,departure of some experienced squad palyers leaving a young thin squad to cope with what was one of the most difficult run of starting fixtures I can remember, and a new manager with a new playing style. The squad understandably considering the players available found it difficult, many teams above us at this time must have wondered what was happening to Liverpool. It was at this time and possibly until xmas , the squad was finding not only its feet with the new style but also Rodgers finding which combination of players would give the club its best starting Eleven. We were scoring but conceeding silly goals, it was at this point that some were questioning the capabilities of our coaching defensively and comparisons and even the call for the return of Steve Clarke as maybe manager replacing Rodgers. West brom were flying and were rubbing shoulders with the big boys. Now i like Steve clarke he is a good football man , but what is my point , well the point is that even with such a great defensive coach now manager west brom leaked over 17 more goals over the season than Liverpool. What does this prove, well certainly it doesnt prove the ability of Clarke was any the less, more that our fragile defence at the first part of the season had improved dramatically over the course of 38 games.  There seems to be the myth that we leaked goals like an old sieve leaks water , in fact we conceeded the same amount as champions Man United, was there talk of their defensive frailties, if so it was kept very quiet. Only 3 teams scored more and 4 teams conceeded less than us . A fair indicator that the squad we have with a few additions has the ability to progress to a level that was once taken for granted, but has only been evident in short flashes. The younger players will be more mentally stronger with last season under their belt.  Our support sometimes can be over analytical and critical , a trait brought about by 20 odd years in the Football wilderness. When Shankly built the first great Dynasty it was a lot easier , supporters used to mediocrity of the 50s were just as keen for success but realised that to reverse years of neglect wouldnt happen overnight and were content to trust the manager in his dealings , even if in the first couple of seasons the goal of going from a mid table second division club to First division Champions seemed to be painfully slow. Todays Supporter (not All) brought up on the legacy of winning everything  in the 70s and 80s does not seem to have such patience and expect instant success, expecting owners to shell out obscene sums of money to quickly realise the dream, reluctant or oblivious to the fact that bought success very rarely lasts. I am content with the progress made , we have the foundations of the squad now in my opinion in place, the hardest task is getting the foundations right , the great teams Liverpool. Real, Barca , Inter , Ajax and yes Man u , found it easier once that first foundation  had been successfully completed to keep the momentum going. Replacing like for like when needed on the playing field.       Wed, 22 May 2013 15:47:15 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_How-quickly-things-can-change/blog/6532074/173471.html ickyuk 2013-05-22T15:47:15Z The Kop We had a nightmare start to the season, a combination of bad summer transfer ,departure of some experienced squad palyers leaving a young thin squad to cope with what was one of the most difficult run of starting fixtures I can remember, and a new manager with a new playing style. The squad understandably considering the players available found it difficult, many teams above us at this time must have wondered what was happening to Liverpool. It was at this time and possibly until xmas , the squad was finding not only its feet with the new style but also Rodgers finding which combination of players would give the club its best starting Eleven. We were scoring but conceeding silly goals, it was at this point that some were questioning the capabilities of our coaching defensively and comparisons and even the call for the return of Steve Clarke as maybe manager replacing Rodgers. West brom were flying and were rubbing shoulders with the big boys. Now i like Steve clarke he is a good football man , but what is my point , well the point is that even with such a great defensive coach now manager west brom leaked over 17 more goals over the season than Liverpool. What does this prove, well certainly it doesnt prove the ability of Clarke was any the less, more that our fragile defence at the first part of the season had improved dramatically over the course of 38 games.  There seems to be the myth that we leaked goals like an old sieve leaks water , in fact we conceeded the same amount as champions Man United, was there talk of their defensive frailties, if so it was kept very quiet. Only 3 teams scored more and 4 teams conceeded less than us . A fair indicator that the squad we have with a few additions has the ability to progress to a level that was once taken for granted, but has only been evident in short flashes. The younger players will be more mentally stronger with last season under their belt.  Our support sometimes can be over analytical and critical , a trait brought about by 20 odd years in the Football wilderness. When Shankly built the first great Dynasty it was a lot easier , supporters used to mediocrity of the 50s were just as keen for success but realised that to reverse years of neglect wouldnt happen overnight and were content to trust the manager in his dealings , even if in the first couple of seasons the goal of going from a mid table second division club to First division Champions seemed to be painfully slow. Todays Supporter (not All) brought up on the legacy of winning everything  in the 70s and 80s does not seem to have such patience and expect instant success, expecting owners to shell out obscene sums of money to quickly realise the dream, reluctant or oblivious to the fact that bought success very rarely lasts. I am content with the progress made , we have the foundations of the squad now in my opinion in place, the hardest task is getting the foundations right , the great teams Liverpool. Real, Barca , Inter , Ajax and yes Man u , found it easier once that first foundation  had been successfully completed to keep the momentum going. Replacing like for like when needed on the playing field.       nonadult false How quickly things can change text blog 104 6 4.66667 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=44903807&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18672073_173471_44903807_ap_160X120.jpg false 3 0 6532074 44903807 Kopite 14145 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_ANDY-CARROLL-TO-BE-34HONEST34/blog/6532072/173471.html The last 2 years, + have not been easy for you, but you must choose what is right for you, no matter what people tells you, so if you want to move to West Ham, you have to do it, but if you want to stay at Liverpool, then... DO IT!!!!! My advice is - GO BACK TO LIVERPOOL - DEFENTLY!!!!! You`d been injuried, didnt get much help, when you were on your own, not even a cross, before Steven Gerrard came back, in springtime 2012, and too often you were left out, untill the last 6 weeks, help bringing LFC into 2 cup finals, with goals and assist, then the EC with that Sweden goal, and now helping a promoted side, to survive more than expected, and... you are ONLY 24 years - YOUNG!! IF yiou dont take the chance at Liverpool FC, you can never come back,so give it half a year, untill christmas time, before making your mind up, also half a year before the World Cup, in Brazil!!! Playiing in the Premier League, as an England international, makes peoples predictions of you sound, completly mistaken, and I emember the game at ST James, December 2010, beating Liverpool by 3 - 1, but then you get injuried, so be ready for preseason, then give it all away, hopefully, some goals, you might be a 25 goals a season striker, at club, and International level!!!!! GOOD LUCK, ANDY - HOPE YOU CHOOSE THE RIGHT MOVE???!! Scouce...  The last 2 years, + have not been easy for you, but you must choose what is right for you, no matter what people tells you, so if you want to move to West Ham, you have to do it, but if you want to stay at Liverpool, then... DO IT!!!!! My advice is - GO BACK TO LIVERPOOL - DEFENTLY!!!!! You`d been injuried, didnt get much help, when you were on your own, not even a cross, before Steven Gerrard came back, in springtime 2012, and too often you were left out, untill the last 6 weeks, help bringing LFC into 2 cup finals, with goals and assist, then the EC with that Sweden goal, and now helping a promoted side, to survive more than expected, and... you are ONLY 24 years - YOUNG!! IF yiou dont take the chance at Liverpool FC, you can never come back,so give it half a year, untill christmas time, before making your mind up, also half a year before the World Cup, in Brazil!!! Playiing in the Premier League, as an England international, makes peoples predictions of you sound, completly mistaken, and I emember the game at ST James, December 2010, beating Liverpool by 3 - 1, but then you get injuried, so be ready for preseason, then give it all away, hopefully, some goals, you might be a 25 goals a season striker, at club, and International level!!!!! GOOD LUCK, ANDY - HOPE YOU CHOOSE THE RIGHT MOVE???!! Scouce...  Wed, 22 May 2013 15:46:14 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_ANDY-CARROLL-TO-BE-34HONEST34/blog/6532072/173471.html JONROLL 2013-05-22T15:46:14Z The Kop The last 2 years, + have not been easy for you, but you must choose what is right for you, no matter what people tells you, so if you want to move to West Ham, you have to do it, but if you want to stay at Liverpool, then... DO IT!!!!! My advice is - GO BACK TO LIVERPOOL - DEFENTLY!!!!! You`d been injuried, didnt get much help, when you were on your own, not even a cross, before Steven Gerrard came back, in springtime 2012, and too often you were left out, untill the last 6 weeks, help bringing LFC into 2 cup finals, with goals and assist, then the EC with that Sweden goal, and now helping a promoted side, to survive more than expected, and... you are ONLY 24 years - YOUNG!! IF yiou dont take the chance at Liverpool FC, you can never come back,so give it half a year, untill christmas time, before making your mind up, also half a year before the World Cup, in Brazil!!! Playiing in the Premier League, as an England international, makes peoples predictions of you sound, completly mistaken, and I emember the game at ST James, December 2010, beating Liverpool by 3 - 1, but then you get injuried, so be ready for preseason, then give it all away, hopefully, some goals, you might be a 25 goals a season striker, at club, and International level!!!!! GOOD LUCK, ANDY - HOPE YOU CHOOSE THE RIGHT MOVE???!! Scouce...  nonadult false ANDY CARROLL, TO BE "HONEST"... text blog 58 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=32005391&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_B.jpg false 3 0 6532072 32005391 Silver 39075 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Next-year-is-ours/blog/6532070/173471.html Well I believe this season was very interesting. Best game in my opinion would be Norwich 5-0 and the worst would be Aston Villa at home. well I'd like to applaud Rodgers' work and make a little overview: TRANSFERS: Borini: Even tho he scored on his debut, the young Italian was struggling through his season. He scored his first EPL goal vs Newcastle and played better after his shoulder injury. Id guess he was a pretty nice buying for a reserve or a future investment Allen:He played most consistantly of all the players and it was a shame he got injured. Only problem is his body structure, while his passing is perfect. Sturridge:Scoring a lot at the start and at the end of the season makes it clear that Sturrige was a good buying. The best in England in Goal/Minute ratio will be an important part of the next season. Coutinho:Young Brazilian from Inter was more than just a good investment. He is probably second best, next to Suarez, and with the number of assists in his time here, it showed he will also be a big part of the future.   Summer buyings: -Toure:a nice free gift from City, he will be a good reserve. -Papadopolus:If Liverpool get him here, and im sure they will, I can guarantee less goals in our net. Young greek is a lot like Carra, and playing for Schalke in Bundeslia has gave him a nice experience. MY HOPES: -Eriksen:If they would sign him, our midfield would be far more consistent and we'd have a lot more of possibilities of playing style. I bet he would make an instant impact like Coutinho and Sturridge. -Carrol/Torres/Other striker:Suarez will be gone for 5 or 6 games next season and that's a lot if you want to finish high. Carrol isn't 100% in West Ham yet and Torres is said to leave Chelsea...if we could get a good deal it would be perfect! So next season's line-up could be something like this: -----------------Suarez------------------- --Sturridge----Coutinho-----Downing--- ------------Eriksen----Lucas------------ Enrique--Agger---Papadopolus--Johnson ----------------Reina--------------------   in midfield they could rotate or change Coutinho/Eriksen/Henderson/Gerrard/Allen/Lucas in attack they could rotate or change Suarez/Sturridge/Downing/Coutinho/Borini/Sterling/Shelvey in defence: Agger/Papadopolus/Škrtel/Toure/Johnson/Wisdom/Enriwue/Coates/Kelly   midfield would be perfect, defence also, since almost every of the centre backs can play as a full back. only thing left would be the attack without Suarez and that's why I believe that summer would end perfectly like this: IN: -Papadopolus -Toure -Eriksen -Maybe another striker OUT: -Carrol -anyone that would make big money...right now I can only see Coates leaving but I think they will let him stay cause of Suarez.   If we sign just Papadopolus,Toure and Eriksen we could go for top2, signing another striker as such as as Sturridge it would give us guarranteed top4 and a possible hunt for the title. the most important thing here is that we have a strong starting XI and a strong bench.  Well I believe this season was very interesting. Best game in my opinion would be Norwich 5-0 and the worst would be Aston Villa at home. well I'd like to applaud Rodgers' work and make a little overview: TRANSFERS: Borini: Even tho he scored on his debut, the young Italian was struggling through his season. He scored his first EPL goal vs Newcastle and played better after his shoulder injury. Id guess he was a pretty nice buying for a reserve or a future investment Allen:He played most consistantly of all the players and it was a shame he got injured. Only problem is his body structure, while his passing is perfect. Sturridge:Scoring a lot at the start and at the end of the season makes it clear that Sturrige was a good buying. The best in England in Goal/Minute ratio will be an important part of the next season. Coutinho:Young Brazilian from Inter was more than just a good investment. He is probably second best, next to Suarez, and with the number of assists in his time here, it showed he will also be a big part of the future.   Summer buyings: -Toure:a nice free gift from City, he will be a good reserve. -Papadopolus:If Liverpool get him here, and im sure they will, I can guarantee less goals in our net. Young greek is a lot like Carra, and playing for Schalke in Bundeslia has gave him a nice experience. MY HOPES: -Eriksen:If they would sign him, our midfield would be far more consistent and we'd have a lot more of possibilities of playing style. I bet he would make an instant impact like Coutinho and Sturridge. -Carrol/Torres/Other striker:Suarez will be gone for 5 or 6 games next season and that's a lot if you want to finish high. Carrol isn't 100% in West Ham yet and Torres is said to leave Chelsea...if we could get a good deal it would be perfect! So next season's line-up could be something like this: -----------------Suarez------------------- --Sturridge----Coutinho-----Downing--- ------------Eriksen----Lucas------------ Enrique--Agger---Papadopolus--Johnson ----------------Reina--------------------   in midfield they could rotate or change Coutinho/Eriksen/Henderson/Gerrard/Allen/Lucas in attack they could rotate or change Suarez/Sturridge/Downing/Coutinho/Borini/Sterling/Shelvey in defence: Agger/Papadopolus/Škrtel/Toure/Johnson/Wisdom/Enriwue/Coates/Kelly   midfield would be perfect, defence also, since almost every of the centre backs can play as a full back. only thing left would be the attack without Suarez and that's why I believe that summer would end perfectly like this: IN: -Papadopolus -Toure -Eriksen -Maybe another striker OUT: -Carrol -anyone that would make big money...right now I can only see Coates leaving but I think they will let him stay cause of Suarez.   If we sign just Papadopolus,Toure and Eriksen we could go for top2, signing another striker as such as as Sturridge it would give us guarranteed top4 and a possible hunt for the title. the most important thing here is that we have a strong starting XI and a strong bench.  Wed, 22 May 2013 15:37:39 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Next-year-is-ours/blog/6532070/173471.html Coutinho111 2013-05-22T15:37:39Z The Kop Well I believe this season was very interesting. Best game in my opinion would be Norwich 5-0 and the worst would be Aston Villa at home. well I'd like to applaud Rodgers' work and make a little overview: TRANSFERS: Borini: Even tho he scored on his debut, the young Italian was struggling through his season. He scored his first EPL goal vs Newcastle and played better after his shoulder injury. Id guess he was a pretty nice buying for a reserve or a future investment Allen:He played most consistantly of all the players and it was a shame he got injured. Only problem is his body structure, while his passing is perfect. Sturridge:Scoring a lot at the start and at the end of the season makes it clear that Sturrige was a good buying. The best in England in Goal/Minute ratio will be an important part of the next season. Coutinho:Young Brazilian from Inter was more than just a good investment. He is probably second best, next to Suarez, and with the number of assists in his time here, it showed he will also be a big part of the future.   Summer buyings: -Toure:a nice free gift from City, he will be a good reserve. -Papadopolus:If Liverpool get him here, and im sure they will, I can guarantee less goals in our net. Young greek is a lot like Carra, and playing for Schalke in Bundeslia has gave him a nice experience. MY HOPES: -Eriksen:If they would sign him, our midfield would be far more consistent and we'd have a lot more of possibilities of playing style. I bet he would make an instant impact like Coutinho and Sturridge. -Carrol/Torres/Other striker:Suarez will be gone for 5 or 6 games next season and that's a lot if you want to finish high. Carrol isn't 100% in West Ham yet and Torres is said to leave Chelsea...if we could get a good deal it would be perfect! So next season's line-up could be something like this: -----------------Suarez------------------- --Sturridge----Coutinho-----Downing--- ------------Eriksen----Lucas------------ Enrique--Agger---Papadopolus--Johnson ----------------Reina--------------------   in midfield they could rotate or change Coutinho/Eriksen/Henderson/Gerrard/Allen/Lucas in attack they could rotate or change Suarez/Sturridge/Downing/Coutinho/Borini/Sterling/Shelvey in defence: Agger/Papadopolus/Škrtel/Toure/Johnson/Wisdom/Enriwue/Coates/Kelly   midfield would be perfect, defence also, since almost every of the centre backs can play as a full back. only thing left would be the attack without Suarez and that's why I believe that summer would end perfectly like this: IN: -Papadopolus -Toure -Eriksen -Maybe another striker OUT: -Carrol -anyone that would make big money...right now I can only see Coates leaving but I think they will let him stay cause of Suarez.   If we sign just Papadopolus,Toure and Eriksen we could go for top2, signing another striker as such as as Sturridge it would give us guarranteed top4 and a possible hunt for the title. the most important thing here is that we have a strong starting XI and a strong bench.  next, predictions, season nonadult false Next year is ours! text blog next,predictions,season 96 2 4.5 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47003788&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_C.jpg false 2 0 6532070 47003788 Kopite 905 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47003788&as=173471 Wed, 22 May 2013 15:19:08 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47003788&as=173471 Coutinho111 2013-05-22T15:19:08Z The Kop nonadult false Coutinho111 user 7 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47003788&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_C.jpg false 1 47003788 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http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_IMG1573JPG/photo/19089842/173471.html mitador 2013-05-22T14:57:24Z The Kop nonadult false IMG_1573.JPG photo 9 1 4.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=30109360&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18196825_173471_30109360_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 1 19089842 30109360 LFC First Team 1129130 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_IMG1574JPG/photo/19089844/173471.html Wed, 22 May 2013 14:57:24 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_IMG1574JPG/photo/19089844/173471.html mitador 2013-05-22T14:57:24Z The Kop nonadult false IMG_1574.JPG photo 9 1 4.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=30109360&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18196825_173471_30109360_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 1 19089844 30109360 LFC First Team 1129130 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Liverpool-Former-Players-Association-Brilliant-event/blog/6532062/173471.html Liverpool FC stars honoured at Former Players Association awards night Standing ovation for 'Player of the Decade' Jamie Carragher   [image]Stellar line-up at the Liverpool Former Players Association Gala Awards Dinner The Liverpool Former Players Association hosted a Gala Awards Dinner at the Hilton Hotel to honour players from across the decades who have been a part of the club’s success story. The event, sponsored by Carlsberg and Wongs Jewellers, was hosted by Claire Rourke and Matt Critchley from LFC TV and many of the former players were present to honour those receiving awards. Jamie Carragher received a standing ovation as he picked up his award for Player of the Decade 2000-2010 at the bash last night.    Brendan Rodgers, despite the   event clashing with the League Managers Association Dinner in London, said he "could think of no better place to be than honouring those who have made Liverpool great!”  Chairman of the Liverpool Former Players Association Jan Molby said:  “I am delighted so many of the former players have joined us here tonight to celebrate the amazing achievements of some remarkable footballers spanning six decades.”     Lifelong Liverpool Fan, John Bishop, presented former Liverpool Manager Roy Evans with a Lifetime Achievement Award, while Luis Suarez picked up the Player of the Season Award for 2013. Margaret Aspinall, chairwoman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, presented Ian Rush with the award for Player of the 80s, while Brendan Rodgers presented Phil Thompson with the gong for Player of the 70’s.    Rounding off an emotional evening, Alan Kennedy honoured Ron Yeats as the Former Player’s Association choice for Player of the 60’s.  WHAT A FANTASTIC NIGHT WE HAD, A BIG THANK YOU TO MY OLD FRIEND JAN AND MANDY FOR INVITING US ON OUR ANNIVERSARY TO A GALA DINNER WITH A ROOM FULL OF TALENT AND LEGENDS, BELOW IS SOME OF MY PICTURES OF THE NIGHT....................................YNWA........................................ [image][image][image][image][image][image][image][image] Liverpool FC stars honoured at Former Players Association awards night Standing ovation for 'Player of the Decade' Jamie Carragher   [image]Stellar line-up at the Liverpool Former Players Association Gala Awards Dinner The Liverpool Former Players Association hosted a Gala Awards Dinner at the Hilton Hotel to honour players from across the decades who have been a part of the club’s success story. The event, sponsored by Carlsberg and Wongs Jewellers, was hosted by Claire Rourke and Matt Critchley from LFC TV and many of the former players were present to honour those receiving awards. Jamie Carragher received a standing ovation as he picked up his award for Player of the Decade 2000-2010 at the bash last night.    Brendan Rodgers, despite the   event clashing with the League Managers Association Dinner in London, said he "could think of no better place to be than honouring those who have made Liverpool great!”  Chairman of the Liverpool Former Players Association Jan Molby said:  “I am delighted so many of the former players have joined us here tonight to celebrate the amazing achievements of some remarkable footballers spanning six decades.”     Lifelong Liverpool Fan, John Bishop, presented former Liverpool Manager Roy Evans with a Lifetime Achievement Award, while Luis Suarez picked up the Player of the Season Award for 2013. Margaret Aspinall, chairwoman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, presented Ian Rush with the award for Player of the 80s, while Brendan Rodgers presented Phil Thompson with the gong for Player of the 70’s.    Rounding off an emotional evening, Alan Kennedy honoured Ron Yeats as the Former Player’s Association choice for Player of the 60’s.  WHAT A FANTASTIC NIGHT WE HAD, A BIG THANK YOU TO MY OLD FRIEND JAN AND MANDY FOR INVITING US ON OUR ANNIVERSARY TO A GALA DINNER WITH A ROOM FULL OF TALENT AND LEGENDS, BELOW IS SOME OF MY PICTURES OF THE NIGHT....................................YNWA........................................ [image][image][image][image][image][image][image][image] Wed, 22 May 2013 14:52:51 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Liverpool-Former-Players-Association-Brilliant-event/blog/6532062/173471.html mitador 2013-05-22T14:52:51Z The Kop Liverpool FC stars honoured at Former Players Association awards night Standing ovation for 'Player of the Decade' Jamie Carragher   [image]Stellar line-up at the Liverpool Former Players Association Gala Awards Dinner The Liverpool Former Players Association hosted a Gala Awards Dinner at the Hilton Hotel to honour players from across the decades who have been a part of the club’s success story. The event, sponsored by Carlsberg and Wongs Jewellers, was hosted by Claire Rourke and Matt Critchley from LFC TV and many of the former players were present to honour those receiving awards. Jamie Carragher received a standing ovation as he picked up his award for Player of the Decade 2000-2010 at the bash last night.    Brendan Rodgers, despite the   event clashing with the League Managers Association Dinner in London, said he "could think of no better place to be than honouring those who have made Liverpool great!”  Chairman of the Liverpool Former Players Association Jan Molby said:  “I am delighted so many of the former players have joined us here tonight to celebrate the amazing achievements of some remarkable footballers spanning six decades.”     Lifelong Liverpool Fan, John Bishop, presented former Liverpool Manager Roy Evans with a Lifetime Achievement Award, while Luis Suarez picked up the Player of the Season Award for 2013. Margaret Aspinall, chairwoman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, presented Ian Rush with the award for Player of the 80s, while Brendan Rodgers presented Phil Thompson with the gong for Player of the 70’s.    Rounding off an emotional evening, Alan Kennedy honoured Ron Yeats as the Former Player’s Association choice for Player of the 60’s.  WHAT A FANTASTIC NIGHT WE HAD, A BIG THANK YOU TO MY OLD FRIEND JAN AND MANDY FOR INVITING US ON OUR ANNIVERSARY TO A GALA DINNER WITH A ROOM FULL OF TALENT AND LEGENDS, BELOW IS SOME OF MY PICTURES OF THE NIGHT....................................YNWA........................................ [image][image][image][image][image][image][image][image] nonadult false Liverpool Former Players Association-Brilliant event text blog 50 6 5.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=30109360&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18196825_173471_30109360_ap_160X120.jpg false 2 1 6532062 30109360 LFC First Team 1129130 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47003096&as=173471 Wed, 22 May 2013 14:06:56 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47003096&as=173471 Sammiiantha9911 2013-05-22T14:06:56Z The Kop nonadult false Sammiiantha9911 user 10 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47003096&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_A.jpg false 1 47003096 47003096 Kopite 500 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Are-SYP-taking-the-mickey/blog/6532058/173471.html South Yorkshire Police say Hillsborough survivors are too late to make personal injury claims over disaster http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2013/05/22/99623-33366307/ Unbelievable. First they doctored the evidence, insulted the LFC supporters, intimidated their own whose accounts were not supporting the "official version", allowed the coroner to introduce an arbitrary cut-off point, tried to get publicity for themselves over how well they "coped" with the "ticketless fans", fed the smear campaign for more than 20 years - and now they have the audacity to say any personal injury claims are too late???I guess they first should be prosecuted for their lies - and then hit with the compensation claims! South Yorkshire Police say Hillsborough survivors are too late to make personal injury claims over disaster http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2013/05/22/99623-33366307/ Unbelievable. First they doctored the evidence, insulted the LFC supporters, intimidated their own whose accounts were not supporting the "official version", allowed the coroner to introduce an arbitrary cut-off point, tried to get publicity for themselves over how well they "coped" with the "ticketless fans", fed the smear campaign for more than 20 years - and now they have the audacity to say any personal injury claims are too late???I guess they first should be prosecuted for their lies - and then hit with the compensation claims! Wed, 22 May 2013 13:31:30 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Are-SYP-taking-the-mickey/blog/6532058/173471.html RusRed 2013-05-22T13:31:30Z The Kop South Yorkshire Police say Hillsborough survivors are too late to make personal injury claims over disaster http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2013/05/22/99623-33366307/ Unbelievable. First they doctored the evidence, insulted the LFC supporters, intimidated their own whose accounts were not supporting the "official version", allowed the coroner to introduce an arbitrary cut-off point, tried to get publicity for themselves over how well they "coped" with the "ticketless fans", fed the smear campaign for more than 20 years - and now they have the audacity to say any personal injury claims are too late???I guess they first should be prosecuted for their lies - and then hit with the compensation claims! hillsborough, jft96 nonadult false Are SYP taking the mickey? text blog hillsborough,jft96 95 2 5.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=39927629&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_16792135_173471_39927629_ap_160X120.jpg false 6 0 6532058 39927629 On the Bench 313290 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Saying-two-opposite-things-at-once/blog/6532040/173471.html   As before, time to listen to what the press have to say about the plans of different clubs for the upcoming transfer window (that is, in-between the discussion who becomes the new manager of a host of teams in various European leagues). And as before, inconsistencies transpire in what Brendan Rodgers has to say about LFC in general and Suarez in particular: --------------------------- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328640/Liverpool-lose-Luis-Suarez-admits-Brendan-Rodgers.html?ico=sport^headlines Rodgers insists Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group have been ‘absolutely unequivocal’ in their determination to hang on to the 26-year-old. The only thing that might change that is Liverpool receiving an astronomical offer. ‘I had a meeting with the owners when they came over and talked about lots of things, and that was one of them. Every player has their price but there’s certainly no pressure for the club to sell him. ‘We’re trying to build that bit of quality so he’s not for sale.’ -------------------------- On the one hand, it is clear that ANY player can be sold if the management / owners think the price is right and a replacement can be found. On the other hand, I would wonder (again): what are LFC’s priorities? Is it to play football or to balance the books? As soon as the players start gelling together, they are plucked out of the side, and more adjustments are needed… and then the process repeats itself… We cannot afford the perpetual transition mode, next season is when LFC needs to move upwards significantly.   As before, time to listen to what the press have to say about the plans of different clubs for the upcoming transfer window (that is, in-between the discussion who becomes the new manager of a host of teams in various European leagues). And as before, inconsistencies transpire in what Brendan Rodgers has to say about LFC in general and Suarez in particular: --------------------------- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328640/Liverpool-lose-Luis-Suarez-admits-Brendan-Rodgers.html?ico=sport^headlines Rodgers insists Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group have been ‘absolutely unequivocal’ in their determination to hang on to the 26-year-old. The only thing that might change that is Liverpool receiving an astronomical offer. ‘I had a meeting with the owners when they came over and talked about lots of things, and that was one of them. Every player has their price but there’s certainly no pressure for the club to sell him. ‘We’re trying to build that bit of quality so he’s not for sale.’ -------------------------- On the one hand, it is clear that ANY player can be sold if the management / owners think the price is right and a replacement can be found. On the other hand, I would wonder (again): what are LFC’s priorities? Is it to play football or to balance the books? As soon as the players start gelling together, they are plucked out of the side, and more adjustments are needed… and then the process repeats itself… We cannot afford the perpetual transition mode, next season is when LFC needs to move upwards significantly. Wed, 22 May 2013 12:23:52 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Saying-two-opposite-things-at-once/blog/6532040/173471.html RusRed 2013-05-22T12:23:52Z The Kop   As before, time to listen to what the press have to say about the plans of different clubs for the upcoming transfer window (that is, in-between the discussion who becomes the new manager of a host of teams in various European leagues). And as before, inconsistencies transpire in what Brendan Rodgers has to say about LFC in general and Suarez in particular: --------------------------- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328640/Liverpool-lose-Luis-Suarez-admits-Brendan-Rodgers.html?ico=sport^headlines Rodgers insists Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group have been ‘absolutely unequivocal’ in their determination to hang on to the 26-year-old. The only thing that might change that is Liverpool receiving an astronomical offer. ‘I had a meeting with the owners when they came over and talked about lots of things, and that was one of them. Every player has their price but there’s certainly no pressure for the club to sell him. ‘We’re trying to build that bit of quality so he’s not for sale.’ -------------------------- On the one hand, it is clear that ANY player can be sold if the management / owners think the price is right and a replacement can be found. On the other hand, I would wonder (again): what are LFC’s priorities? Is it to play football or to balance the books? As soon as the players start gelling together, they are plucked out of the side, and more adjustments are needed… and then the process repeats itself… We cannot afford the perpetual transition mode, next season is when LFC needs to move upwards significantly. brendan rodgers, suarez nonadult false Saying two opposite things at once text blog brendan rodgers,suarez 140 4 4.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=39927629&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_16792135_173471_39927629_ap_160X120.jpg false 13 0 6532040 39927629 On the Bench 313290 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47002178&as=173471 Wed, 22 May 2013 12:01:47 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47002178&as=173471 johnychukwuma 2013-05-22T12:01:47Z The Kop nonadult false johnychukwuma user 8 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=47002178&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_D.jpg false 1 47002178 47002178 Kopite 500 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_A-grey-anatomy-of-Liverpool39s-season-2012-13/blog/6532036/173471.html With the season finished, a lot of fans gather in discussions, attempting to interpret where we are and to see where we can realistically be next season.   A common source to tap on to draw the most solid conclusions is The Table. “The table doesn’t lie”, they say, and this is usually (these last few years at least, where we change managers quickly after Benitez sacking and constant transitional periods see us lie around 7th-8th place in the table) followed by all kinds of poor stats that highlight how wrong we got it (or more specifically, that manager in that year).    I don’t believe tables lie, indeed I think they don’t. However, I think that fast and lazy “readings” of the table or numbers do mislead, especially when combined with emotions of disappointment.  In my opinion, while I can relate with frustrating emotions at times and we’ve all had them in the past 3 seasons, emotions should be set aside when trying to honestly understand what the table says.  I also believe that not all is black and white, and that usually it’s about which of the positives and negatives are more long term and which were temporal.   In this blog, I will attempt such a feat, and will share the process with you fellow fans and friends, hoping to provide the basis for more good discussion.   So first of all, how does one read a table? Simply looking at the final table is not reading the table or understanding it, in my opinion..it’s just looking at the table. I think that a single season is a long time, especially for a new team that’s starting to play in a new way with a new coach, and different periods of the season can have differences that could prove to be important when looking for conclusions.  I like to break the season into 4 quarters of 9 games each. I separate the 1st game and the last game of the season from those to result into the following fragments:    Premiere game - 1st Quarter (9 games) - 2nd Quarter (9 games)  3rd Quarter (9 games) - 4th Quarter (9 games) - Last Game   This in turn creates two halves (hence the paragraph space between 2nd and 3rd quarter). This subdivision helps in providing a more detailed look, and in observing progress or lack thereof through the season. This zooming in and out of the bigger picture enables an observer to understand information that the bare eye can’t perceive from looking at the final table, as we will see below. The isolation of the first and last game is there for two reasons: First, to create equal Quarters in order to compare them more easily and on equal terms, and secondly to isolate the first game and the last game because they are special in that the first game is rarely reflecting on the side (look at United’s example, or Arsenal’s) and the last is usually after everything’s decided (well ok, unless you’ve asked a City/Utd fan last season, or a Chelsea/Arsenal/Spurs fan this season). Having these two special games separate makes it easy to include each in either half of the season to zoom out of the quarters and look at a bigger picture, or also to attach them to their adjacent Quarters. Ultimately they are there for symmetrical reasons and they provide flexibility in the analysis.     First Game: Loss to W.Brom 3-0 (A)  Attached to the next 9 games: W2 - D5 - L3 - 13-15(-2) - Pts11/30 (lost 63%)   1st Quarter: Games 2-10 (Aug26-Nov4) W2 - D5 - L2 - 13-12 (+1) - Pts11/27 (lost 59% points) Clean Sheets: 2 (2 Home) Failed to Score: 2  Conceded 2+: 5 Top 6 teams: 4 Home/Away: 6/3   2nd Quarter: Games 11-19 (Nov11-Dec26) W4 - D2 - L3 - 15-11(+4) - Pts14/27 (lost 48% points) Clean Sheets: 4 (3 Home, 1 Away) Failed to Score: 1 Conceded 2+: 4 Top 6 teams: 2 Home/Away: 4/5   1st Half of season Summary: W6 - D7 - L6 - 28-26(+2) - Pts 25/57 (lost 56% points) Clean Sheets: 6 (5 Home, 1 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 10   3rd Quarter: Games 20-28 (Dec30-Mar2) W5 - D2 - L2 - 25-8(+17) - Pts17/27 (lost 37% points) Clean Sheets: 5 (3 Home, 2 Away) Failed to Score: 1 Conceded 2+: 4 Top 6 teams: 3 Home/Away: 4/5   4th Quarter: Games 29-37 (Mar10-May12) W4 - D4 - L1 - 18-9(+9) - Pts16/27 (lost 40% points) Clean Sheets: 4 (2 Home, 2 Away) Failed to Score: 3 Conceded 2+: 3 Top 6 teams: 3 Home/Away: 4/5   Last Game: Won vs QPR 1-0 (H)  Attached to previous 9 games: W5 - D4 - L1 - 19-9(+10) - Pts19/30 (lost 36.6%)   2nd Half of season Summary: W10 - D6 - L3 - 44-17(+27) - Pts 36/57 (lost 36.8% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (6 Home, 4 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 7   As we can see from zooming in at the table, there are two very different halves of the season. The stat that highlights the difference at most is the percantage of points lost. In the first half of the season we have lost more than half the points maximum (56%), while in the second half the amount of points lost decreased drastically to 36.8%.  Further zooming in into Quarters, we can see how a progress from Quarter to Quarter is shaped:  There is sound progress from Quarter 1 to Quarter 2, with points lost decreased from 59% (or a massive 63% if you include the premiere game) to 48%. Clean Sheets doubled (4 compared to 2), as did wins (again 4 compared to 2). This is in my opinion down to two reasons: a) the players starting to get more used to playing this way, and starting to marginally improve individual parameters of Rodgers’ style of play, and b) facing less top 6 teams in this Quarter than in the previous - half as many (2 compared to 4). That said, we played less at home than in the 1st Quarter (4 compared to 6). There is further progress from Quarter 2 to Quarter 3, with points lost further decreasing from 48% to 37% (looking at the progress from Quarter 1 to Quarter 3, that’s a massive 26% difference from 63% to 37% - or, from relegation form to top 5 form). Clean sheets continue to increase even if marginally (5 compared to 4), as do wins (again, 5 compared to 4). The drastic difference in this quarter is the goal difference, especially the goals scored (25 compared to the 15 of Quarter 2). In the whole first half of the season we had scored only 3 more than in the 9 games of this 3rd Quarter (25 in just the 9 games of 3rd Quarter compared to the 28 of the 19 games of the whole first half). But also defense started to improve (8 goals conceded compared to 11 of Quarter 2). The reasons for this much more sound progress are, in my opinion, the following: a) The return of Lucas from injury and the comeback/return to starting 11 of Carragher to minimize the previous serial mistakes has made the difference in our defensive progress; b) The arrival of Coutinho and Sturridge made an immediate impact and made up for being a starting CF short in the previous two Quarters, as well as the lack of a genuine attacking playmaker since Gerrard was assuming a deep lying playmaker role in Rodgers’ system. This resulted in having a multiple threat, as opposed to solely relying on Suarez - opposition had to handle Suarez in order to render us ineffective, whereas now they couldn’t concentrate their efforts on just him; c) the rest of the team playing even more together in the new system, getting more used to it. All that was against more top 6 opponents than in Quarter 2 (3 compared to 2). That seemed to be the threshold of progress throughout a first season, as the team couldn’t improve even further. However, it must not be underestimated that the team has managed to retain the progress achieved in 3rd Quarter (40% of points lost in the last Quarter - or 36.6% points lost in last 10 games - compared to 37% of 3rd Quarter). Most of the other stats looking the same, and goals scored averaging 2 per game - but 3 goalless draws meaning that attack comes significantly 2nd, behind that of 3rd Quarter (18 compared to 25).    The significance of retaining the progress of Quarter 3 in this last Quarter is highlighted when we zoom out and see how the last two Quarters (including the last game) combine for a very much improved 2nd half of the season: 56% of points maximum was lost in the first half of the season, while only 36.8% was lost in the second half (a whopping 20% difference). Half the amount of games lost (3 compared to 6), near double the amount of wins (10 compared to 6), a goal difference of +27 compared to a measly +2, near double the amount of clean sheets (10 compared to 6), are stats that highlight this progress as well.   So zooming in and out of the table shows us a gradual progress from Quarter to Quarter, but also shades two very different halves of our season. When we take the reasons observed in the Quarters’ progress, it can be seen that the return of Lucas and Carragher in defense, as well as the addition of Sturridge and Coutinho in late January, together with evolving the system through the season, have enabled a significant improvement.  Since our team next season (currently at least, and barring any unexpected bad surprises) includes the elements that resulted in that improvement (with the exception of Carragher, for which though I expect and hope to have a quality replacement), it is the minimum expected for next season, as i) a new preseason, ii) a further evolving of the system and the players playing together longer, as well as iii) young players maturing even more (Sterling and Wisdom in particular have gained great experience this season, and all young players will be a year older, closer and closer to peak or coming of age depending on which player you look at), and iv) further summer additions that should provide more depth and options, are all factors expected to provide further improvement.   So if we take this 2nd half of the season as a base, it would be interesting to compare it to the top 4 teams, as top 4 is the minimum target we could have next season. This can give us a better idea on how far off we currently are, as well as the areas of improvement that can be the catalyst in achieving that.   Liverpool’s 2nd Half of season (defined base for next season): W10 - D6 - L3 - 44-17(+27) - Pts 36/57 (lost 36.8% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (6 Home, 4 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 7   Compared to top 4:   Utd’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W15 - D1 - L3 - 48-28(+20) - Pts 46/57 (lost 19% points) Clean Sheets: 3 (1 Home, 2 Away) Conceded 2+: 9   Utd’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W13 - D4 - L2 - 39-15(+24) - Pts 43/57 (lost 24,5% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (5 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 3       City’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W11 - D6 - L2 - 34-16(+18) - Pts 39/57 (lost 31,5% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (6 Home, 4 Away) Conceded 2+: 3   City’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W12 - D3 - L4 - 32-18(+14) - Pts 39/57 (lost 31,5% points) Clean Sheets: 11 (6 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 3       Chelsea’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W11 - D5 - L3 - 39-18(+21) - Pts 38/57 (lost 33% points) Clean Sheets: 8 (5 Home, 3 Away) Conceded 2+: 4   Chelsea’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W11 - D4 - L4 - 36-21(+15) - Pts 37/57 (lost 35% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (4 Home, 3 Away) Conceded 2+: 7       Arsenal’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W9 - D6 - L4 - 40-21(+19) - Pts 33/57 (lost 42% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (3 Home, 4 Away) Conceded 2+: 7   Arsenal’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W12 - D4 - L3 - 33-16(+17) - Pts 40/57 (lost 30% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (2 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 4   We can see that our 2nd half of the season (which is the half that includes all the parameters that we currently have, so can be used as a base), while not yet a match for 1st or truly a match for 2nd place, is really close to not just 4th place, but also 3rd place. I’d like to bring the following observations to the foreground, comparing our 2nd half to those two teams, Chelsea (3rd) and Arsenal (4th): Our points lost (36.8%) are very close to Chelsea’s (33% in first half, and 35% in second half - that’s 2 and 1 points less respectively) and about the average of Arsenal’s two halves (42% and 30% respectively, or 33 points and 40 points respectively - our 36 being what Arsenal’s averaged). That’s 1 win more to equal Chelsea’s either half, and a bit less than Arsenal’s average (in our 2nd half, we had 1 more win than their 1st half, 2 less than their 2nd half) That’s as many losses as the best half of either 3rd placed Chelsea or 4th placed Arsenal (3 being either team’s best half, 4 being either team’s worst half). A better goal difference (+27) than both Chelsea and Arsenal at any of their halves (+21/+15 for Chelsea, +19/+17 for Arsenal), with the details also looking good: Attack being again better than either of the two in either half (our 44 compared to Chelsea’s 39 or 36, or Arsenal’s 40 or 33); Defense being second only to Arsenal’s 2nd half by a single goal (17 compared to Arsenal’s 16), but better than Arsenal’s 1st half (21) and better than Chelsea’s either half (18 and 21).    With these observations it becomes apparent that the amount of lost games is competitive enough, and wins are only marginally lower. It’s evidently about turning those draws into wins - the games vs West Ham and Reading that could and should have been won (games where we were unable to score despite getting about 25 goal attempts) highlight this last conclusion.   When we compare to the top two teams, the gap to City is not significantly bigger.  City’s wins are not much different than Chelsea’s (12 and 11 compared to our 10), and our losses average City’s two halves (our 3 being the average of their 2 in first half and 4 in 2nd half). There’s a total of 3 points gap in order to reach City’s ratio of 31.5% of points lost in either half (a very consistent team in both halves btw). The gap from Utd is more than a season apart, as can be clearly seen by the figures. While we have conceded no more than them in total when the whole season is accounted, there’s a big gap that would take more than a season to reach. That’s only natural though, given how their team is the finished work (literally, with the sun of Fergie having finally set), and ours being the starting work, as well as being the youngest team in the league in age average - so our future’s ahead, while their future now has a question mark of how they’ll manage to retain all that has been achieved.   There is no way to know how much of their percentage these teams will retain next season, with and 3 of the 4 teams changing managers.  But we can see from this analysis that if the second half of the season is our given, to which we add in the summer and start the next season with that as a minimum, top 4 is definitely a very realistic minimum target.   Three areas where we certainly need to improve are: the number of times we concede 2+ goals: our 7 in the 2nd half is the worst of either Chelsea or Arsenal’s either half (7 and 4 for either of the two), and more than twice as often as City’s (3 in either half) - if we want to compare with the best defense in the league; It’s still better than Utd’s 1st half (9), but they improved massively on that figure in the 2nd half (3), and it didn’t affect their points loss (while conceding more than 2 goals 9 out of 19 times, they still lost only 19% of the points maximum). beating top 6 teams: Only managed that vs Tottenham (with a draw at the other game). 2 losses vs Utd, 2 draws vs City, 2 draws vs Everton, a loss and a draw vs Arsenal, and 2 draws vs Chelsea. That’s 1 win, 8 draws and 3 losses vs top 6. That’s hardly normal for Liverpool - a more normal (yet realistic for a first season) ratio vs the top 6, something like 3 wins, 6 draws and 3 losses would see us close that gap between Chelsea, Arsenal and City. turning draws into victories and winning after trailing behind (only did that a couple of times this season). Late goals have been frequent feature of top 4 teams, especially Utd and Arsenal.   Two things that will be a catalyst in achieving the 3 improvements above are, in my opinion: Having more/better depth, which ensures two things: firstly that we have game changers on the bench. A fellow Kopite pointed out that he read that Man Utd came from behind to either draw a losing game or to win a drawing game 17 times this season - pretty much half their games. We need game changers to turn games like the ones vs Reading and West Ham back to back goalless draws into victories, for example. Secondly, to have enough cover so that in a case like Lucas, whose injury had dire consequences because we had no cover for his position during the first 3 months of the season, and we couldn’t cope. Sorting out defense, both in terms of training and in terms of transfers. Carragher’s retirement and Skrtel’s incompatibility this past season (as well as Coates’ not being ready to step in reliably) suggests that we are left with only Agger as a reliable CB. While Wisdom is an option at CB, we need at least 3, ideally 4 options of reliable CBs. Whether it’s a purely coaching issue and Rodgers will manage Skrtel and Coates (in a similar way to which he managed Henderson and Downing), or a player/experience issue and Skrtel goes and Coates is loaned and two new CB will be brought, the defense needs to be sorted. It’s very clear that Rodgers came and found a solid defense and an attack that was unable to score, so started with sorting out the attack, but it became evident that defense needs its own sorting now.   To conclude, I think that the message of this season is that while the final result is disappointing, the signs at the table are clear that we have progressed massively and that we have set the foundations for getting back to the top.    The criteria with which we had the first half of the season figures do not exist any more, while the criteria with which we had the second half of the season figures are (at least until now) the ones that we will carry to the next season. With further improvement and more quality depth added being the two expectations to see, I am very positive for next season.  With the season finished, a lot of fans gather in discussions, attempting to interpret where we are and to see where we can realistically be next season.   A common source to tap on to draw the most solid conclusions is The Table. “The table doesn’t lie”, they say, and this is usually (these last few years at least, where we change managers quickly after Benitez sacking and constant transitional periods see us lie around 7th-8th place in the table) followed by all kinds of poor stats that highlight how wrong we got it (or more specifically, that manager in that year).    I don’t believe tables lie, indeed I think they don’t. However, I think that fast and lazy “readings” of the table or numbers do mislead, especially when combined with emotions of disappointment.  In my opinion, while I can relate with frustrating emotions at times and we’ve all had them in the past 3 seasons, emotions should be set aside when trying to honestly understand what the table says.  I also believe that not all is black and white, and that usually it’s about which of the positives and negatives are more long term and which were temporal.   In this blog, I will attempt such a feat, and will share the process with you fellow fans and friends, hoping to provide the basis for more good discussion.   So first of all, how does one read a table? Simply looking at the final table is not reading the table or understanding it, in my opinion..it’s just looking at the table. I think that a single season is a long time, especially for a new team that’s starting to play in a new way with a new coach, and different periods of the season can have differences that could prove to be important when looking for conclusions.  I like to break the season into 4 quarters of 9 games each. I separate the 1st game and the last game of the season from those to result into the following fragments:    Premiere game - 1st Quarter (9 games) - 2nd Quarter (9 games)  3rd Quarter (9 games) - 4th Quarter (9 games) - Last Game   This in turn creates two halves (hence the paragraph space between 2nd and 3rd quarter). This subdivision helps in providing a more detailed look, and in observing progress or lack thereof through the season. This zooming in and out of the bigger picture enables an observer to understand information that the bare eye can’t perceive from looking at the final table, as we will see below. The isolation of the first and last game is there for two reasons: First, to create equal Quarters in order to compare them more easily and on equal terms, and secondly to isolate the first game and the last game because they are special in that the first game is rarely reflecting on the side (look at United’s example, or Arsenal’s) and the last is usually after everything’s decided (well ok, unless you’ve asked a City/Utd fan last season, or a Chelsea/Arsenal/Spurs fan this season). Having these two special games separate makes it easy to include each in either half of the season to zoom out of the quarters and look at a bigger picture, or also to attach them to their adjacent Quarters. Ultimately they are there for symmetrical reasons and they provide flexibility in the analysis.     First Game: Loss to W.Brom 3-0 (A)  Attached to the next 9 games: W2 - D5 - L3 - 13-15(-2) - Pts11/30 (lost 63%)   1st Quarter: Games 2-10 (Aug26-Nov4) W2 - D5 - L2 - 13-12 (+1) - Pts11/27 (lost 59% points) Clean Sheets: 2 (2 Home) Failed to Score: 2  Conceded 2+: 5 Top 6 teams: 4 Home/Away: 6/3   2nd Quarter: Games 11-19 (Nov11-Dec26) W4 - D2 - L3 - 15-11(+4) - Pts14/27 (lost 48% points) Clean Sheets: 4 (3 Home, 1 Away) Failed to Score: 1 Conceded 2+: 4 Top 6 teams: 2 Home/Away: 4/5   1st Half of season Summary: W6 - D7 - L6 - 28-26(+2) - Pts 25/57 (lost 56% points) Clean Sheets: 6 (5 Home, 1 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 10   3rd Quarter: Games 20-28 (Dec30-Mar2) W5 - D2 - L2 - 25-8(+17) - Pts17/27 (lost 37% points) Clean Sheets: 5 (3 Home, 2 Away) Failed to Score: 1 Conceded 2+: 4 Top 6 teams: 3 Home/Away: 4/5   4th Quarter: Games 29-37 (Mar10-May12) W4 - D4 - L1 - 18-9(+9) - Pts16/27 (lost 40% points) Clean Sheets: 4 (2 Home, 2 Away) Failed to Score: 3 Conceded 2+: 3 Top 6 teams: 3 Home/Away: 4/5   Last Game: Won vs QPR 1-0 (H)  Attached to previous 9 games: W5 - D4 - L1 - 19-9(+10) - Pts19/30 (lost 36.6%)   2nd Half of season Summary: W10 - D6 - L3 - 44-17(+27) - Pts 36/57 (lost 36.8% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (6 Home, 4 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 7   As we can see from zooming in at the table, there are two very different halves of the season. The stat that highlights the difference at most is the percantage of points lost. In the first half of the season we have lost more than half the points maximum (56%), while in the second half the amount of points lost decreased drastically to 36.8%.  Further zooming in into Quarters, we can see how a progress from Quarter to Quarter is shaped:  There is sound progress from Quarter 1 to Quarter 2, with points lost decreased from 59% (or a massive 63% if you include the premiere game) to 48%. Clean Sheets doubled (4 compared to 2), as did wins (again 4 compared to 2). This is in my opinion down to two reasons: a) the players starting to get more used to playing this way, and starting to marginally improve individual parameters of Rodgers’ style of play, and b) facing less top 6 teams in this Quarter than in the previous - half as many (2 compared to 4). That said, we played less at home than in the 1st Quarter (4 compared to 6). There is further progress from Quarter 2 to Quarter 3, with points lost further decreasing from 48% to 37% (looking at the progress from Quarter 1 to Quarter 3, that’s a massive 26% difference from 63% to 37% - or, from relegation form to top 5 form). Clean sheets continue to increase even if marginally (5 compared to 4), as do wins (again, 5 compared to 4). The drastic difference in this quarter is the goal difference, especially the goals scored (25 compared to the 15 of Quarter 2). In the whole first half of the season we had scored only 3 more than in the 9 games of this 3rd Quarter (25 in just the 9 games of 3rd Quarter compared to the 28 of the 19 games of the whole first half). But also defense started to improve (8 goals conceded compared to 11 of Quarter 2). The reasons for this much more sound progress are, in my opinion, the following: a) The return of Lucas from injury and the comeback/return to starting 11 of Carragher to minimize the previous serial mistakes has made the difference in our defensive progress; b) The arrival of Coutinho and Sturridge made an immediate impact and made up for being a starting CF short in the previous two Quarters, as well as the lack of a genuine attacking playmaker since Gerrard was assuming a deep lying playmaker role in Rodgers’ system. This resulted in having a multiple threat, as opposed to solely relying on Suarez - opposition had to handle Suarez in order to render us ineffective, whereas now they couldn’t concentrate their efforts on just him; c) the rest of the team playing even more together in the new system, getting more used to it. All that was against more top 6 opponents than in Quarter 2 (3 compared to 2). That seemed to be the threshold of progress throughout a first season, as the team couldn’t improve even further. However, it must not be underestimated that the team has managed to retain the progress achieved in 3rd Quarter (40% of points lost in the last Quarter - or 36.6% points lost in last 10 games - compared to 37% of 3rd Quarter). Most of the other stats looking the same, and goals scored averaging 2 per game - but 3 goalless draws meaning that attack comes significantly 2nd, behind that of 3rd Quarter (18 compared to 25).    The significance of retaining the progress of Quarter 3 in this last Quarter is highlighted when we zoom out and see how the last two Quarters (including the last game) combine for a very much improved 2nd half of the season: 56% of points maximum was lost in the first half of the season, while only 36.8% was lost in the second half (a whopping 20% difference). Half the amount of games lost (3 compared to 6), near double the amount of wins (10 compared to 6), a goal difference of +27 compared to a measly +2, near double the amount of clean sheets (10 compared to 6), are stats that highlight this progress as well.   So zooming in and out of the table shows us a gradual progress from Quarter to Quarter, but also shades two very different halves of our season. When we take the reasons observed in the Quarters’ progress, it can be seen that the return of Lucas and Carragher in defense, as well as the addition of Sturridge and Coutinho in late January, together with evolving the system through the season, have enabled a significant improvement.  Since our team next season (currently at least, and barring any unexpected bad surprises) includes the elements that resulted in that improvement (with the exception of Carragher, for which though I expect and hope to have a quality replacement), it is the minimum expected for next season, as i) a new preseason, ii) a further evolving of the system and the players playing together longer, as well as iii) young players maturing even more (Sterling and Wisdom in particular have gained great experience this season, and all young players will be a year older, closer and closer to peak or coming of age depending on which player you look at), and iv) further summer additions that should provide more depth and options, are all factors expected to provide further improvement.   So if we take this 2nd half of the season as a base, it would be interesting to compare it to the top 4 teams, as top 4 is the minimum target we could have next season. This can give us a better idea on how far off we currently are, as well as the areas of improvement that can be the catalyst in achieving that.   Liverpool’s 2nd Half of season (defined base for next season): W10 - D6 - L3 - 44-17(+27) - Pts 36/57 (lost 36.8% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (6 Home, 4 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 7   Compared to top 4:   Utd’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W15 - D1 - L3 - 48-28(+20) - Pts 46/57 (lost 19% points) Clean Sheets: 3 (1 Home, 2 Away) Conceded 2+: 9   Utd’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W13 - D4 - L2 - 39-15(+24) - Pts 43/57 (lost 24,5% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (5 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 3       City’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W11 - D6 - L2 - 34-16(+18) - Pts 39/57 (lost 31,5% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (6 Home, 4 Away) Conceded 2+: 3   City’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W12 - D3 - L4 - 32-18(+14) - Pts 39/57 (lost 31,5% points) Clean Sheets: 11 (6 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 3       Chelsea’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W11 - D5 - L3 - 39-18(+21) - Pts 38/57 (lost 33% points) Clean Sheets: 8 (5 Home, 3 Away) Conceded 2+: 4   Chelsea’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W11 - D4 - L4 - 36-21(+15) - Pts 37/57 (lost 35% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (4 Home, 3 Away) Conceded 2+: 7       Arsenal’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W9 - D6 - L4 - 40-21(+19) - Pts 33/57 (lost 42% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (3 Home, 4 Away) Conceded 2+: 7   Arsenal’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W12 - D4 - L3 - 33-16(+17) - Pts 40/57 (lost 30% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (2 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 4   We can see that our 2nd half of the season (which is the half that includes all the parameters that we currently have, so can be used as a base), while not yet a match for 1st or truly a match for 2nd place, is really close to not just 4th place, but also 3rd place. I’d like to bring the following observations to the foreground, comparing our 2nd half to those two teams, Chelsea (3rd) and Arsenal (4th): Our points lost (36.8%) are very close to Chelsea’s (33% in first half, and 35% in second half - that’s 2 and 1 points less respectively) and about the average of Arsenal’s two halves (42% and 30% respectively, or 33 points and 40 points respectively - our 36 being what Arsenal’s averaged). That’s 1 win more to equal Chelsea’s either half, and a bit less than Arsenal’s average (in our 2nd half, we had 1 more win than their 1st half, 2 less than their 2nd half) That’s as many losses as the best half of either 3rd placed Chelsea or 4th placed Arsenal (3 being either team’s best half, 4 being either team’s worst half). A better goal difference (+27) than both Chelsea and Arsenal at any of their halves (+21/+15 for Chelsea, +19/+17 for Arsenal), with the details also looking good: Attack being again better than either of the two in either half (our 44 compared to Chelsea’s 39 or 36, or Arsenal’s 40 or 33); Defense being second only to Arsenal’s 2nd half by a single goal (17 compared to Arsenal’s 16), but better than Arsenal’s 1st half (21) and better than Chelsea’s either half (18 and 21).    With these observations it becomes apparent that the amount of lost games is competitive enough, and wins are only marginally lower. It’s evidently about turning those draws into wins - the games vs West Ham and Reading that could and should have been won (games where we were unable to score despite getting about 25 goal attempts) highlight this last conclusion.   When we compare to the top two teams, the gap to City is not significantly bigger.  City’s wins are not much different than Chelsea’s (12 and 11 compared to our 10), and our losses average City’s two halves (our 3 being the average of their 2 in first half and 4 in 2nd half). There’s a total of 3 points gap in order to reach City’s ratio of 31.5% of points lost in either half (a very consistent team in both halves btw). The gap from Utd is more than a season apart, as can be clearly seen by the figures. While we have conceded no more than them in total when the whole season is accounted, there’s a big gap that would take more than a season to reach. That’s only natural though, given how their team is the finished work (literally, with the sun of Fergie having finally set), and ours being the starting work, as well as being the youngest team in the league in age average - so our future’s ahead, while their future now has a question mark of how they’ll manage to retain all that has been achieved.   There is no way to know how much of their percentage these teams will retain next season, with and 3 of the 4 teams changing managers.  But we can see from this analysis that if the second half of the season is our given, to which we add in the summer and start the next season with that as a minimum, top 4 is definitely a very realistic minimum target.   Three areas where we certainly need to improve are: the number of times we concede 2+ goals: our 7 in the 2nd half is the worst of either Chelsea or Arsenal’s either half (7 and 4 for either of the two), and more than twice as often as City’s (3 in either half) - if we want to compare with the best defense in the league; It’s still better than Utd’s 1st half (9), but they improved massively on that figure in the 2nd half (3), and it didn’t affect their points loss (while conceding more than 2 goals 9 out of 19 times, they still lost only 19% of the points maximum). beating top 6 teams: Only managed that vs Tottenham (with a draw at the other game). 2 losses vs Utd, 2 draws vs City, 2 draws vs Everton, a loss and a draw vs Arsenal, and 2 draws vs Chelsea. That’s 1 win, 8 draws and 3 losses vs top 6. That’s hardly normal for Liverpool - a more normal (yet realistic for a first season) ratio vs the top 6, something like 3 wins, 6 draws and 3 losses would see us close that gap between Chelsea, Arsenal and City. turning draws into victories and winning after trailing behind (only did that a couple of times this season). Late goals have been frequent feature of top 4 teams, especially Utd and Arsenal.   Two things that will be a catalyst in achieving the 3 improvements above are, in my opinion: Having more/better depth, which ensures two things: firstly that we have game changers on the bench. A fellow Kopite pointed out that he read that Man Utd came from behind to either draw a losing game or to win a drawing game 17 times this season - pretty much half their games. We need game changers to turn games like the ones vs Reading and West Ham back to back goalless draws into victories, for example. Secondly, to have enough cover so that in a case like Lucas, whose injury had dire consequences because we had no cover for his position during the first 3 months of the season, and we couldn’t cope. Sorting out defense, both in terms of training and in terms of transfers. Carragher’s retirement and Skrtel’s incompatibility this past season (as well as Coates’ not being ready to step in reliably) suggests that we are left with only Agger as a reliable CB. While Wisdom is an option at CB, we need at least 3, ideally 4 options of reliable CBs. Whether it’s a purely coaching issue and Rodgers will manage Skrtel and Coates (in a similar way to which he managed Henderson and Downing), or a player/experience issue and Skrtel goes and Coates is loaned and two new CB will be brought, the defense needs to be sorted. It’s very clear that Rodgers came and found a solid defense and an attack that was unable to score, so started with sorting out the attack, but it became evident that defense needs its own sorting now.   To conclude, I think that the message of this season is that while the final result is disappointing, the signs at the table are clear that we have progressed massively and that we have set the foundations for getting back to the top.    The criteria with which we had the first half of the season figures do not exist any more, while the criteria with which we had the second half of the season figures are (at least until now) the ones that we will carry to the next season. With further improvement and more quality depth added being the two expectations to see, I am very positive for next season.  Wed, 22 May 2013 12:00:53 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_A-grey-anatomy-of-Liverpool39s-season-2012-13/blog/6532036/173471.html TheSweetSilverSong 2013-05-22T12:00:53Z Titles The Kop With the season finished, a lot of fans gather in discussions, attempting to interpret where we are and to see where we can realistically be next season.   A common source to tap on to draw the most solid conclusions is The Table. “The table doesn’t lie”, they say, and this is usually (these last few years at least, where we change managers quickly after Benitez sacking and constant transitional periods see us lie around 7th-8th place in the table) followed by all kinds of poor stats that highlight how wrong we got it (or more specifically, that manager in that year).    I don’t believe tables lie, indeed I think they don’t. However, I think that fast and lazy “readings” of the table or numbers do mislead, especially when combined with emotions of disappointment.  In my opinion, while I can relate with frustrating emotions at times and we’ve all had them in the past 3 seasons, emotions should be set aside when trying to honestly understand what the table says.  I also believe that not all is black and white, and that usually it’s about which of the positives and negatives are more long term and which were temporal.   In this blog, I will attempt such a feat, and will share the process with you fellow fans and friends, hoping to provide the basis for more good discussion.   So first of all, how does one read a table? Simply looking at the final table is not reading the table or understanding it, in my opinion..it’s just looking at the table. I think that a single season is a long time, especially for a new team that’s starting to play in a new way with a new coach, and different periods of the season can have differences that could prove to be important when looking for conclusions.  I like to break the season into 4 quarters of 9 games each. I separate the 1st game and the last game of the season from those to result into the following fragments:    Premiere game - 1st Quarter (9 games) - 2nd Quarter (9 games)  3rd Quarter (9 games) - 4th Quarter (9 games) - Last Game   This in turn creates two halves (hence the paragraph space between 2nd and 3rd quarter). This subdivision helps in providing a more detailed look, and in observing progress or lack thereof through the season. This zooming in and out of the bigger picture enables an observer to understand information that the bare eye can’t perceive from looking at the final table, as we will see below. The isolation of the first and last game is there for two reasons: First, to create equal Quarters in order to compare them more easily and on equal terms, and secondly to isolate the first game and the last game because they are special in that the first game is rarely reflecting on the side (look at United’s example, or Arsenal’s) and the last is usually after everything’s decided (well ok, unless you’ve asked a City/Utd fan last season, or a Chelsea/Arsenal/Spurs fan this season). Having these two special games separate makes it easy to include each in either half of the season to zoom out of the quarters and look at a bigger picture, or also to attach them to their adjacent Quarters. Ultimately they are there for symmetrical reasons and they provide flexibility in the analysis.     First Game: Loss to W.Brom 3-0 (A)  Attached to the next 9 games: W2 - D5 - L3 - 13-15(-2) - Pts11/30 (lost 63%)   1st Quarter: Games 2-10 (Aug26-Nov4) W2 - D5 - L2 - 13-12 (+1) - Pts11/27 (lost 59% points) Clean Sheets: 2 (2 Home) Failed to Score: 2  Conceded 2+: 5 Top 6 teams: 4 Home/Away: 6/3   2nd Quarter: Games 11-19 (Nov11-Dec26) W4 - D2 - L3 - 15-11(+4) - Pts14/27 (lost 48% points) Clean Sheets: 4 (3 Home, 1 Away) Failed to Score: 1 Conceded 2+: 4 Top 6 teams: 2 Home/Away: 4/5   1st Half of season Summary: W6 - D7 - L6 - 28-26(+2) - Pts 25/57 (lost 56% points) Clean Sheets: 6 (5 Home, 1 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 10   3rd Quarter: Games 20-28 (Dec30-Mar2) W5 - D2 - L2 - 25-8(+17) - Pts17/27 (lost 37% points) Clean Sheets: 5 (3 Home, 2 Away) Failed to Score: 1 Conceded 2+: 4 Top 6 teams: 3 Home/Away: 4/5   4th Quarter: Games 29-37 (Mar10-May12) W4 - D4 - L1 - 18-9(+9) - Pts16/27 (lost 40% points) Clean Sheets: 4 (2 Home, 2 Away) Failed to Score: 3 Conceded 2+: 3 Top 6 teams: 3 Home/Away: 4/5   Last Game: Won vs QPR 1-0 (H)  Attached to previous 9 games: W5 - D4 - L1 - 19-9(+10) - Pts19/30 (lost 36.6%)   2nd Half of season Summary: W10 - D6 - L3 - 44-17(+27) - Pts 36/57 (lost 36.8% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (6 Home, 4 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 7   As we can see from zooming in at the table, there are two very different halves of the season. The stat that highlights the difference at most is the percantage of points lost. In the first half of the season we have lost more than half the points maximum (56%), while in the second half the amount of points lost decreased drastically to 36.8%.  Further zooming in into Quarters, we can see how a progress from Quarter to Quarter is shaped:  There is sound progress from Quarter 1 to Quarter 2, with points lost decreased from 59% (or a massive 63% if you include the premiere game) to 48%. Clean Sheets doubled (4 compared to 2), as did wins (again 4 compared to 2). This is in my opinion down to two reasons: a) the players starting to get more used to playing this way, and starting to marginally improve individual parameters of Rodgers’ style of play, and b) facing less top 6 teams in this Quarter than in the previous - half as many (2 compared to 4). That said, we played less at home than in the 1st Quarter (4 compared to 6). There is further progress from Quarter 2 to Quarter 3, with points lost further decreasing from 48% to 37% (looking at the progress from Quarter 1 to Quarter 3, that’s a massive 26% difference from 63% to 37% - or, from relegation form to top 5 form). Clean sheets continue to increase even if marginally (5 compared to 4), as do wins (again, 5 compared to 4). The drastic difference in this quarter is the goal difference, especially the goals scored (25 compared to the 15 of Quarter 2). In the whole first half of the season we had scored only 3 more than in the 9 games of this 3rd Quarter (25 in just the 9 games of 3rd Quarter compared to the 28 of the 19 games of the whole first half). But also defense started to improve (8 goals conceded compared to 11 of Quarter 2). The reasons for this much more sound progress are, in my opinion, the following: a) The return of Lucas from injury and the comeback/return to starting 11 of Carragher to minimize the previous serial mistakes has made the difference in our defensive progress; b) The arrival of Coutinho and Sturridge made an immediate impact and made up for being a starting CF short in the previous two Quarters, as well as the lack of a genuine attacking playmaker since Gerrard was assuming a deep lying playmaker role in Rodgers’ system. This resulted in having a multiple threat, as opposed to solely relying on Suarez - opposition had to handle Suarez in order to render us ineffective, whereas now they couldn’t concentrate their efforts on just him; c) the rest of the team playing even more together in the new system, getting more used to it. All that was against more top 6 opponents than in Quarter 2 (3 compared to 2). That seemed to be the threshold of progress throughout a first season, as the team couldn’t improve even further. However, it must not be underestimated that the team has managed to retain the progress achieved in 3rd Quarter (40% of points lost in the last Quarter - or 36.6% points lost in last 10 games - compared to 37% of 3rd Quarter). Most of the other stats looking the same, and goals scored averaging 2 per game - but 3 goalless draws meaning that attack comes significantly 2nd, behind that of 3rd Quarter (18 compared to 25).    The significance of retaining the progress of Quarter 3 in this last Quarter is highlighted when we zoom out and see how the last two Quarters (including the last game) combine for a very much improved 2nd half of the season: 56% of points maximum was lost in the first half of the season, while only 36.8% was lost in the second half (a whopping 20% difference). Half the amount of games lost (3 compared to 6), near double the amount of wins (10 compared to 6), a goal difference of +27 compared to a measly +2, near double the amount of clean sheets (10 compared to 6), are stats that highlight this progress as well.   So zooming in and out of the table shows us a gradual progress from Quarter to Quarter, but also shades two very different halves of our season. When we take the reasons observed in the Quarters’ progress, it can be seen that the return of Lucas and Carragher in defense, as well as the addition of Sturridge and Coutinho in late January, together with evolving the system through the season, have enabled a significant improvement.  Since our team next season (currently at least, and barring any unexpected bad surprises) includes the elements that resulted in that improvement (with the exception of Carragher, for which though I expect and hope to have a quality replacement), it is the minimum expected for next season, as i) a new preseason, ii) a further evolving of the system and the players playing together longer, as well as iii) young players maturing even more (Sterling and Wisdom in particular have gained great experience this season, and all young players will be a year older, closer and closer to peak or coming of age depending on which player you look at), and iv) further summer additions that should provide more depth and options, are all factors expected to provide further improvement.   So if we take this 2nd half of the season as a base, it would be interesting to compare it to the top 4 teams, as top 4 is the minimum target we could have next season. This can give us a better idea on how far off we currently are, as well as the areas of improvement that can be the catalyst in achieving that.   Liverpool’s 2nd Half of season (defined base for next season): W10 - D6 - L3 - 44-17(+27) - Pts 36/57 (lost 36.8% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (6 Home, 4 Away) Failed to Score: 4 Conceded 2+: 7   Compared to top 4:   Utd’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W15 - D1 - L3 - 48-28(+20) - Pts 46/57 (lost 19% points) Clean Sheets: 3 (1 Home, 2 Away) Conceded 2+: 9   Utd’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W13 - D4 - L2 - 39-15(+24) - Pts 43/57 (lost 24,5% points) Clean Sheets: 10 (5 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 3       City’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W11 - D6 - L2 - 34-16(+18) - Pts 39/57 (lost 31,5% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (6 Home, 4 Away) Conceded 2+: 3   City’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W12 - D3 - L4 - 32-18(+14) - Pts 39/57 (lost 31,5% points) Clean Sheets: 11 (6 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 3       Chelsea’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W11 - D5 - L3 - 39-18(+21) - Pts 38/57 (lost 33% points) Clean Sheets: 8 (5 Home, 3 Away) Conceded 2+: 4   Chelsea’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W11 - D4 - L4 - 36-21(+15) - Pts 37/57 (lost 35% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (4 Home, 3 Away) Conceded 2+: 7       Arsenal’s 1st Half of Season Summary: W9 - D6 - L4 - 40-21(+19) - Pts 33/57 (lost 42% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (3 Home, 4 Away) Conceded 2+: 7   Arsenal’s 2nd Half of Season Summary: W12 - D4 - L3 - 33-16(+17) - Pts 40/57 (lost 30% points) Clean Sheets: 7 (2 Home, 5 Away) Conceded 2+: 4   We can see that our 2nd half of the season (which is the half that includes all the parameters that we currently have, so can be used as a base), while not yet a match for 1st or truly a match for 2nd place, is really close to not just 4th place, but also 3rd place. I’d like to bring the following observations to the foreground, comparing our 2nd half to those two teams, Chelsea (3rd) and Arsenal (4th): Our points lost (36.8%) are very close to Chelsea’s (33% in first half, and 35% in second half - that’s 2 and 1 points less respectively) and about the average of Arsenal’s two halves (42% and 30% respectively, or 33 points and 40 points respectively - our 36 being what Arsenal’s averaged). That’s 1 win more to equal Chelsea’s either half, and a bit less than Arsenal’s average (in our 2nd half, we had 1 more win than their 1st half, 2 less than their 2nd half) That’s as many losses as the best half of either 3rd placed Chelsea or 4th placed Arsenal (3 being either team’s best half, 4 being either team’s worst half). A better goal difference (+27) than both Chelsea and Arsenal at any of their halves (+21/+15 for Chelsea, +19/+17 for Arsenal), with the details also looking good: Attack being again better than either of the two in either half (our 44 compared to Chelsea’s 39 or 36, or Arsenal’s 40 or 33); Defense being second only to Arsenal’s 2nd half by a single goal (17 compared to Arsenal’s 16), but better than Arsenal’s 1st half (21) and better than Chelsea’s either half (18 and 21).    With these observations it becomes apparent that the amount of lost games is competitive enough, and wins are only marginally lower. It’s evidently about turning those draws into wins - the games vs West Ham and Reading that could and should have been won (games where we were unable to score despite getting about 25 goal attempts) highlight this last conclusion.   When we compare to the top two teams, the gap to City is not significantly bigger.  City’s wins are not much different than Chelsea’s (12 and 11 compared to our 10), and our losses average City’s two halves (our 3 being the average of their 2 in first half and 4 in 2nd half). There’s a total of 3 points gap in order to reach City’s ratio of 31.5% of points lost in either half (a very consistent team in both halves btw). The gap from Utd is more than a season apart, as can be clearly seen by the figures. While we have conceded no more than them in total when the whole season is accounted, there’s a big gap that would take more than a season to reach. That’s only natural though, given how their team is the finished work (literally, with the sun of Fergie having finally set), and ours being the starting work, as well as being the youngest team in the league in age average - so our future’s ahead, while their future now has a question mark of how they’ll manage to retain all that has been achieved.   There is no way to know how much of their percentage these teams will retain next season, with and 3 of the 4 teams changing managers.  But we can see from this analysis that if the second half of the season is our given, to which we add in the summer and start the next season with that as a minimum, top 4 is definitely a very realistic minimum target.   Three areas where we certainly need to improve are: the number of times we concede 2+ goals: our 7 in the 2nd half is the worst of either Chelsea or Arsenal’s either half (7 and 4 for either of the two), and more than twice as often as City’s (3 in either half) - if we want to compare with the best defense in the league; It’s still better than Utd’s 1st half (9), but they improved massively on that figure in the 2nd half (3), and it didn’t affect their points loss (while conceding more than 2 goals 9 out of 19 times, they still lost only 19% of the points maximum). beating top 6 teams: Only managed that vs Tottenham (with a draw at the other game). 2 losses vs Utd, 2 draws vs City, 2 draws vs Everton, a loss and a draw vs Arsenal, and 2 draws vs Chelsea. That’s 1 win, 8 draws and 3 losses vs top 6. That’s hardly normal for Liverpool - a more normal (yet realistic for a first season) ratio vs the top 6, something like 3 wins, 6 draws and 3 losses would see us close that gap between Chelsea, Arsenal and City. turning draws into victories and winning after trailing behind (only did that a couple of times this season). Late goals have been frequent feature of top 4 teams, especially Utd and Arsenal.   Two things that will be a catalyst in achieving the 3 improvements above are, in my opinion: Having more/better depth, which ensures two things: firstly that we have game changers on the bench. A fellow Kopite pointed out that he read that Man Utd came from behind to either draw a losing game or to win a drawing game 17 times this season - pretty much half their games. We need game changers to turn games like the ones vs Reading and West Ham back to back goalless draws into victories, for example. Secondly, to have enough cover so that in a case like Lucas, whose injury had dire consequences because we had no cover for his position during the first 3 months of the season, and we couldn’t cope. Sorting out defense, both in terms of training and in terms of transfers. Carragher’s retirement and Skrtel’s incompatibility this past season (as well as Coates’ not being ready to step in reliably) suggests that we are left with only Agger as a reliable CB. While Wisdom is an option at CB, we need at least 3, ideally 4 options of reliable CBs. Whether it’s a purely coaching issue and Rodgers will manage Skrtel and Coates (in a similar way to which he managed Henderson and Downing), or a player/experience issue and Skrtel goes and Coates is loaned and two new CB will be brought, the defense needs to be sorted. It’s very clear that Rodgers came and found a solid defense and an attack that was unable to score, so started with sorting out the attack, but it became evident that defense needs its own sorting now.   To conclude, I think that the message of this season is that while the final result is disappointing, the signs at the table are clear that we have progressed massively and that we have set the foundations for getting back to the top.    The criteria with which we had the first half of the season figures do not exist any more, while the criteria with which we had the second half of the season figures are (at least until now) the ones that we will carry to the next season. With further improvement and more quality depth added being the two expectations to see, I am very positive for next season.  2012-13, 2013, analysis, next season targets, season, season's conclusions, table, titles, transition nonadult false A grey anatomy of Liverpool's season 2012-13 text blog 2012-13,2013,analysis,next season targets,season,season's conclusions,table,titles,transition 177 4 5.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=39660411&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18169389_173471_39660411_ap_160X120.jpg false 8 Titles 1 6532036 39660411 Silver 47250 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_FA-what-are-you-doing-again/blog/6532028/173471.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328729/Jonny-Evans-escapes-punishment-punching-Marcus-Rosenberg.html?ito=feeds-newsxml   So that's FA parting gift to baconface? Not taking action against Evan's punching?  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328729/Jonny-Evans-escapes-punishment-punching-Marcus-Rosenberg.html?ito=feeds-newsxml   So that's FA parting gift to baconface? Not taking action against Evan's punching?  Wed, 22 May 2013 10:42:24 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_FA-what-are-you-doing-again/blog/6532028/173471.html Joeleeq 2013-05-22T10:42:24Z The Kop http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328729/Jonny-Evans-escapes-punishment-punching-Marcus-Rosenberg.html?ito=feeds-newsxml   So that's FA parting gift to baconface? Not taking action against Evan's punching?  nonadult false FA, what are you doing again? text blog 152 1 3.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=44642161&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18754024_173471_44642161_ap_160X120.jpg false 8 0 6532028 44642161 Gold 51560 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_I-Want-to-Know-How/blog/6532026/173471.html well i know everyone is posting about suarez, coutinho and centre half replacements etc. there is a position in which even though i dont think we need to worry about im gunna suggest someone for it anyway and that is left full back. well everyone always says we need an experienced left back for cover for enrique. Well there is a certain left back in which i was reminiscing about and watching old videos and that is JOHN ARNE RIISE. there are many reasons why he would be a good signing  1. experienced 2. not a complete dud 3. affordable 4.not getting much gametime anyway at fulham and last but not least he was a former player who was addored by the club no. so in my opinion we should definetly think about it because having already played for the club he would already know the requirements and passion you need to take this club forward. so tell me your thoughts and  YNWA well i know everyone is posting about suarez, coutinho and centre half replacements etc. there is a position in which even though i dont think we need to worry about im gunna suggest someone for it anyway and that is left full back. well everyone always says we need an experienced left back for cover for enrique. Well there is a certain left back in which i was reminiscing about and watching old videos and that is JOHN ARNE RIISE. there are many reasons why he would be a good signing  1. experienced 2. not a complete dud 3. affordable 4.not getting much gametime anyway at fulham and last but not least he was a former player who was addored by the club no. so in my opinion we should definetly think about it because having already played for the club he would already know the requirements and passion you need to take this club forward. so tell me your thoughts and  YNWA Wed, 22 May 2013 10:34:38 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_I-Want-to-Know-How/blog/6532026/173471.html YNWAxMClovin 2013-05-22T10:34:38Z The Kop well i know everyone is posting about suarez, coutinho and centre half replacements etc. there is a position in which even though i dont think we need to worry about im gunna suggest someone for it anyway and that is left full back. well everyone always says we need an experienced left back for cover for enrique. Well there is a certain left back in which i was reminiscing about and watching old videos and that is JOHN ARNE RIISE. there are many reasons why he would be a good signing  1. experienced 2. not a complete dud 3. affordable 4.not getting much gametime anyway at fulham and last but not least he was a former player who was addored by the club no. so in my opinion we should definetly think about it because having already played for the club he would already know the requirements and passion you need to take this club forward. so tell me your thoughts and  YNWA nonadult false I Want to Know How text blog 127 2 3.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=44041196&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_A.jpg false 5 0 6532026 44041196 Kopite 9880 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Luis-Suarez-El-Pistolero/blog/6532022/173471.html Selling Suarez is not optional for LFC because he's a world class material and his actions were his own, they did not reflect the upbringing or values of LFC.Luis Suarez is an indisciplined player who needs to be taken through the ropes of discipline, as well as learning respect for others. I am a Liverpool fan, but of course I do not support his actions just because he wears our shirt.I think the coaching staff need to remind him that he is at Anfield to play football and not to exhibit his ego. Discipline and respect are 2 of the most important things on the pitch. (After all, this is what makes real Captains be Captains).I feel his actions were a let-down because he did not behave like a real professional. Real Professionals stop the opponent with "skill and stamina", not with unacceptable behavior or in this case rather," not with their teeth".Suarez must simply face his punishment, learn from it and get on with his game. YNWA  Selling Suarez is not optional for LFC because he's a world class material and his actions were his own, they did not reflect the upbringing or values of LFC.Luis Suarez is an indisciplined player who needs to be taken through the ropes of discipline, as well as learning respect for others. I am a Liverpool fan, but of course I do not support his actions just because he wears our shirt.I think the coaching staff need to remind him that he is at Anfield to play football and not to exhibit his ego. Discipline and respect are 2 of the most important things on the pitch. (After all, this is what makes real Captains be Captains).I feel his actions were a let-down because he did not behave like a real professional. Real Professionals stop the opponent with "skill and stamina", not with unacceptable behavior or in this case rather," not with their teeth".Suarez must simply face his punishment, learn from it and get on with his game. YNWA  Wed, 22 May 2013 10:15:09 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Luis-Suarez-El-Pistolero/blog/6532022/173471.html Eugene4Liverpool 2013-05-22T10:15:09Z Luis Suarez The Kop Selling Suarez is not optional for LFC because he's a world class material and his actions were his own, they did not reflect the upbringing or values of LFC.Luis Suarez is an indisciplined player who needs to be taken through the ropes of discipline, as well as learning respect for others. I am a Liverpool fan, but of course I do not support his actions just because he wears our shirt.I think the coaching staff need to remind him that he is at Anfield to play football and not to exhibit his ego. Discipline and respect are 2 of the most important things on the pitch. (After all, this is what makes real Captains be Captains).I feel his actions were a let-down because he did not behave like a real professional. Real Professionals stop the opponent with "skill and stamina", not with unacceptable behavior or in this case rather," not with their teeth".Suarez must simply face his punishment, learn from it and get on with his game. YNWA  luis suarez nonadult false Luis Suarez El Pistolero text blog luis suarez 86 2 2.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=44474415&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19021100_173471_44474415_ap_160X120.jpg false 3 Luis Suarez 0 6532022 44474415 Kopite 7980 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_LFC-Statistic/blog/6532020/173471.html The followings are some interesting stats that I found from EPLIndex. 1. Defensive - At the beginning of the season until January, our defence makes few errors that costs us points, Reina and Skrtel. After January, Rodgers use Carragher ahead of Skrtel brings a degree of stability to the defence. This is reason why experience and mentality is extremely important for a centreback. Probably something wrong with Reina and Skrtel. - From EPLindex in January. Please note that the error statistics is up until January only. [image]  PlayerMins PlayedError Lead to ShotError Lead to GoalTotal ErrorsMins Per Error Sebastian Coates 139 1 0 1 139 Joe Cole 166 0 1 1 166 Lucas Leiva 596 3 0 3 199 Jose Reina 1620 2 3 5 324 Martin Kelly 335 0 1 1 335 Joe Allen 1721 5 0 5 344 Bradley Jones 360 0 1 1 360 Martin Skrtel 1874 3 2 5 375 Andre Wisdom 790 2 0 2 395 Nuri Sahin 454 1 0 1 454 Jose Enrique 1037 1 1 2 519 Suso 581 1 0 1 581 Steven Gerrard 1980 2 0 2 990 Glen Johnson 1784 1 0 1 1784 Daniel Agger 1840 1 0 1 1840    - We should continue combination of Gerrard and Lucas together next season, rotating Allen, Shelvey and Henderson in between. Combination of them made most tackles compared to top teams in Europe. 161 tackles and 6.88 tackles per game with 2.7 aerial duel won per game. They were dispossed just by 1.3 per game. A truly key to Rodgers idea of possession towards the end of the season. - Allen which have been teased by a lot of fans this season, probably due to the poor match against MU. He did in Liverpool what he did in Swansea. He is not a worse player but could be a better attacking player than before. He is better than Carrick that lose ball every 7 minutes, with 1.68m tall, he won 38% aerial duel and his tackle win obviously decreased because we have Lucas at the back with 81% final third pass. Read more [image]     2. Counterattack - Liverpool are 0% goal from counter with 23 shots. I felt Rodgers can try to put in more open counterattack using our striker again simply because it would be good to utilise their pace. Tiki taka requires building from the back but adding extra training on counterattack I believes would add extra threat in speed. Rodgers did try out counterattack at the pre-season and beginning of the season and I can see how threatening is our counterattack. He decided not to play counterattack later on. He turns back to his basic passing game. With addition of Sturridge and Coutinho, rather than just depends on Suarez at early of the season, counter attack could be useful. Suarez have 10 shots during counterattack but no goals. Sturridge should play regularly beside him and train counterattack in training ground. [image] [image] 3. Substitution impact - There is a problem with depth when you looks at the quality on the bench this season compared to last season.  [image] - In 12 games, we were losing by halftime and win 1, lose 7 when losing 1-0. Only 2 goals come from substitute. I can only say we were lacking the confidence and mentality. When we gets scored first, we will lose. We are not capable of making strong comeback. Fans normally ask why doesn't Rodgers make sub. But, will our sub be better than the starting line-up? MU and MC possessed quality bench players and even Moyes have good fringe players on bench but we have youth players on the bench. - This is effect of removing substitutes impact (ignoring peripheral contribution)L Liverpool would drop by a place to 8th. MC is really dependent on substitutes since they have top players anywhere. [image] 4. Chances and Goals - This department undoubtedly shows tremendous progress over the season. Look at the graph trends. [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image]     The followings are some interesting stats that I found from EPLIndex. 1. Defensive - At the beginning of the season until January, our defence makes few errors that costs us points, Reina and Skrtel. After January, Rodgers use Carragher ahead of Skrtel brings a degree of stability to the defence. This is reason why experience and mentality is extremely important for a centreback. Probably something wrong with Reina and Skrtel. - From EPLindex in January. Please note that the error statistics is up until January only. [image]  PlayerMins PlayedError Lead to ShotError Lead to GoalTotal ErrorsMins Per Error Sebastian Coates 139 1 0 1 139 Joe Cole 166 0 1 1 166 Lucas Leiva 596 3 0 3 199 Jose Reina 1620 2 3 5 324 Martin Kelly 335 0 1 1 335 Joe Allen 1721 5 0 5 344 Bradley Jones 360 0 1 1 360 Martin Skrtel 1874 3 2 5 375 Andre Wisdom 790 2 0 2 395 Nuri Sahin 454 1 0 1 454 Jose Enrique 1037 1 1 2 519 Suso 581 1 0 1 581 Steven Gerrard 1980 2 0 2 990 Glen Johnson 1784 1 0 1 1784 Daniel Agger 1840 1 0 1 1840    - We should continue combination of Gerrard and Lucas together next season, rotating Allen, Shelvey and Henderson in between. Combination of them made most tackles compared to top teams in Europe. 161 tackles and 6.88 tackles per game with 2.7 aerial duel won per game. They were dispossed just by 1.3 per game. A truly key to Rodgers idea of possession towards the end of the season. - Allen which have been teased by a lot of fans this season, probably due to the poor match against MU. He did in Liverpool what he did in Swansea. He is not a worse player but could be a better attacking player than before. He is better than Carrick that lose ball every 7 minutes, with 1.68m tall, he won 38% aerial duel and his tackle win obviously decreased because we have Lucas at the back with 81% final third pass. Read more [image]     2. Counterattack - Liverpool are 0% goal from counter with 23 shots. I felt Rodgers can try to put in more open counterattack using our striker again simply because it would be good to utilise their pace. Tiki taka requires building from the back but adding extra training on counterattack I believes would add extra threat in speed. Rodgers did try out counterattack at the pre-season and beginning of the season and I can see how threatening is our counterattack. He decided not to play counterattack later on. He turns back to his basic passing game. With addition of Sturridge and Coutinho, rather than just depends on Suarez at early of the season, counter attack could be useful. Suarez have 10 shots during counterattack but no goals. Sturridge should play regularly beside him and train counterattack in training ground. [image] [image] 3. Substitution impact - There is a problem with depth when you looks at the quality on the bench this season compared to last season.  [image] - In 12 games, we were losing by halftime and win 1, lose 7 when losing 1-0. Only 2 goals come from substitute. I can only say we were lacking the confidence and mentality. When we gets scored first, we will lose. We are not capable of making strong comeback. Fans normally ask why doesn't Rodgers make sub. But, will our sub be better than the starting line-up? MU and MC possessed quality bench players and even Moyes have good fringe players on bench but we have youth players on the bench. - This is effect of removing substitutes impact (ignoring peripheral contribution)L Liverpool would drop by a place to 8th. MC is really dependent on substitutes since they have top players anywhere. [image] 4. Chances and Goals - This department undoubtedly shows tremendous progress over the season. Look at the graph trends. [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image]     Wed, 22 May 2013 09:44:14 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_LFC-Statistic/blog/6532020/173471.html Joeleeq 2013-05-22T09:44:14Z The Kop The followings are some interesting stats that I found from EPLIndex. 1. Defensive - At the beginning of the season until January, our defence makes few errors that costs us points, Reina and Skrtel. After January, Rodgers use Carragher ahead of Skrtel brings a degree of stability to the defence. This is reason why experience and mentality is extremely important for a centreback. Probably something wrong with Reina and Skrtel. - From EPLindex in January. Please note that the error statistics is up until January only. [image]  PlayerMins PlayedError Lead to ShotError Lead to GoalTotal ErrorsMins Per Error Sebastian Coates 139 1 0 1 139 Joe Cole 166 0 1 1 166 Lucas Leiva 596 3 0 3 199 Jose Reina 1620 2 3 5 324 Martin Kelly 335 0 1 1 335 Joe Allen 1721 5 0 5 344 Bradley Jones 360 0 1 1 360 Martin Skrtel 1874 3 2 5 375 Andre Wisdom 790 2 0 2 395 Nuri Sahin 454 1 0 1 454 Jose Enrique 1037 1 1 2 519 Suso 581 1 0 1 581 Steven Gerrard 1980 2 0 2 990 Glen Johnson 1784 1 0 1 1784 Daniel Agger 1840 1 0 1 1840    - We should continue combination of Gerrard and Lucas together next season, rotating Allen, Shelvey and Henderson in between. Combination of them made most tackles compared to top teams in Europe. 161 tackles and 6.88 tackles per game with 2.7 aerial duel won per game. They were dispossed just by 1.3 per game. A truly key to Rodgers idea of possession towards the end of the season. - Allen which have been teased by a lot of fans this season, probably due to the poor match against MU. He did in Liverpool what he did in Swansea. He is not a worse player but could be a better attacking player than before. He is better than Carrick that lose ball every 7 minutes, with 1.68m tall, he won 38% aerial duel and his tackle win obviously decreased because we have Lucas at the back with 81% final third pass. Read more [image]     2. Counterattack - Liverpool are 0% goal from counter with 23 shots. I felt Rodgers can try to put in more open counterattack using our striker again simply because it would be good to utilise their pace. Tiki taka requires building from the back but adding extra training on counterattack I believes would add extra threat in speed. Rodgers did try out counterattack at the pre-season and beginning of the season and I can see how threatening is our counterattack. He decided not to play counterattack later on. He turns back to his basic passing game. With addition of Sturridge and Coutinho, rather than just depends on Suarez at early of the season, counter attack could be useful. Suarez have 10 shots during counterattack but no goals. Sturridge should play regularly beside him and train counterattack in training ground. [image] [image] 3. Substitution impact - There is a problem with depth when you looks at the quality on the bench this season compared to last season.  [image] - In 12 games, we were losing by halftime and win 1, lose 7 when losing 1-0. Only 2 goals come from substitute. I can only say we were lacking the confidence and mentality. When we gets scored first, we will lose. We are not capable of making strong comeback. Fans normally ask why doesn't Rodgers make sub. But, will our sub be better than the starting line-up? MU and MC possessed quality bench players and even Moyes have good fringe players on bench but we have youth players on the bench. - This is effect of removing substitutes impact (ignoring peripheral contribution)L Liverpool would drop by a place to 8th. MC is really dependent on substitutes since they have top players anywhere. [image] 4. Chances and Goals - This department undoubtedly shows tremendous progress over the season. Look at the graph trends. [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image]     statistic nonadult false LFC Statistic text blog statistic 166 3 4.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=44642161&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18754024_173471_44642161_ap_160X120.jpg false 9 1 6532020 44642161 Gold 51560 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_My-Research-Project/blog/6532018/173471.html Why have Liverpool FC fallen from grace after 1990s?-Fan’s view RESEARCH OUTCOME Liverpool Football Club is one of the most successful English club as it has won 18 League titles, 7 FA cups, 8 League Cups, 5 European Cups and 3 UEFA Cups since it was founded in 1892.[1] The club has played at Anfield stadium since its formation. The most successful period in Liverpool's history was under managers: Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley (1960s-80s) who led the club to 30 honours. But after the introduction of Premier League in 1992, LFC has not won a league title even though they’ve won other honours in the process. There are many reasons for this faltering; not utilising revenue, ownership issues, inconsistent managers and poor transfer dealings. These are discussed below. Not utilising Revenue: Some of the Liverpool fans blame the fact that Liverpool didn’t utilise the revenue earned previously from sponsorships and ticket sales to expand their stadium when the cost was low. Supporters have drawn comparisons with other “BIG” clubs like Manchester United and Arsenal who have utilised the commercial revenue from TV rights and thus have expanded/shifted their stadium. This has resulted in higher revenue earned in terms of ticket sales and better sponsorship deals. Anfield has 45276 seats whereas Manchester United’s Old Trafford has 75811 seats and Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium has 60361 seats.[2] Since 2002 plans to replace Anfield have been in place but this was held back by former owners in 2007 who promised to start building the new stadium in 60 days but had trouble financing the estimated £500 million needed for new stadium because the club was bought with borrowed money and not the owners' capital, and interest rates were high. After the acquisition of Liverpool by Fenway Sports Group in October 2010 the question arose again whether Liverpool would leave Anfield. The owners preferred to stay at Anfield and plans to regenerate the stadium were announced after securing a £25m grant. Liverpool’s managing director Ian Ayre insisted that the planned redevelopment would enhance the club's spending power within the player transfer market. He also supported the notion that Manchester United and Arsenal gain bigger ground in terms of matchday revenue.[3] As one of the twitter users @RichardMurphy91 tweeted “failure to keep up with the revenue generating advances made by others (eg man u) especially internationally”. LFC forum’s users: “Zonal Marked”; stated not making use of commercial revenues, “Red Trilogy” said “we failed to develop the stadium at a time when finances became ultra-key to success” and “Famous Seamus” had the same view.   Matchday Revenue 2011/2012 [4] Ownership: Ownership issues weren’t a major problem until 6 February 2007, when George Gillett and Tom Hicks assumed control of Liverpool F.C. in a deal worth a reported £470 million.[5] The owners made “fake promises” as said by many Liverpool supporters. Hicks and Gillett stated that their foremost priority was gaining silverware, and vowed to start building a new stadium at Stanley Park within 60 days. As said before the stadium was never built. The biggest problem they faced was falling into debts. Upon arriving at Anfield, Hicks and Gillett made clear that they had purchased the club with no debt saddled on top. However, just a year on from the takeover, the co-owners had already agreed on loans, most notably with the Royal Bank of Scotland. In 2009 there were fears that the club could go bankrupt from the debt incurred by the loans from the bank, though the owners managed to refinance the deal for another year. But more than £200 million worth of debt had been piled on to the club.[6] The owners also never established a healthy relationship with the fans[7] and the first manager in their regime, Rafael Benitez. Throughout their tenure the owners made indirect comments on the manager and demotivated him by saying that he wouldn’t get enough transfer funds as well as publicly stating that his position was in threat. As Benitez was the fans’ favourite this didn’t go down well with the fans as they also wanted to see funding in their Liverpool squad and owners fulfilling their promises. In October 2010, as part of a fans' campaign against the ownership, a video entitled Dear Mr Hicks was released virally via YouTube. It featured celebrity fans of the club giving their reasons why they wanted to see a change of ownership. On October 15, 2010, Hicks and Gillett lost ownership of Liverpool F.C to New England Sports Ventures (NESV), for a fee believed to be around £300 million.[8] As @strtbrdsn on twitter replied to my account saying “we were financially outmuscled”[9], as on LFC’s official forum “2fast-T” blamed Hicks and Gillett for taking the club backwards and so did forum user “redfoot”[10] and Robbie Westley, one of my interviewees had only one reason which was problematic reign of Hicks and Gillett who he said stopped the club’s progression[11]. Managerial Changes: Managerial changes over this time have been frequent, as there have been 9 managers throughout these 22 years compared to 4 managers in the 32 years before that.  This has resulted in inconsistency as new managers bring new training methods, style of play and players. Liverpool has won 13 honours in this period but two managers have been particularly blamed for the downfall: Graeme Souness and Roy Hodgson. Souness took over Liverpool from 1991-1994 and won only one cup. His transfer dealings have been criticised by many for being the reason that Liverpool not performed well. This was the most popular view by many LFC supporters on forum/social networks. He never received the fans’ support and so was the case with Roy Hodgson as fans’ support form the basis of team spirit. Roy Hodgson took over LFC from 2010-2011 with his reign only lasting 6 months. He became so unpopular among LFC fans that whenever Liverpool played a match, fans chanted the name of another manager. His unpopularity, failed signings and poor style of play cost him his job. Souness had a win percentage of 42.04 while Hodgson had a poor 41.94[12]. These two have the worst record over the 22 years. Goal Scoring: In the last 6 seasons Liverpool have had a downward trend in goals scored and goals conceded as shown in this chart:   This has resulted in loss of points in the league for LFC thus affecting their position and inability to win the league title. Most goals were scored in 08/09 season where Liverpool came second, the closest ever to winning a premier league title losing by just 4 points. After that they performed really poorly and last season for the first time ever LFC weren’t even able to score 50 goals in the league. The biggest issue always has been poor transfer dealings. New players have mostly not lived up to expectations. Except for a few players, many new players have failed to establish themselves as first team players. Although LFC have spent £601m since introduction of Premier League and have failed to win a league title. As shown Liverpool have spent the 3rd most in English Premier League (EPL) history and still haven’t been able to win a league title whereas Manchester United have won the most league titles by spending the 4th most.     Some of these signings were made by Souness and Hodgson as well as recent manager Kenny Dalglish[13] and most fans complained they were never able to replace the best players. Rather, they brought in average players who were never good enough for LFC like Paul Stewart, Dean Saunders, Paul Konchesky, Milan Jovanovich, Charlie Adam etc. This notion was supported by both Peter Young and Jack White who blamed the new signings on these managers.[14] Some fans even suggest Souness destroyed the “Liverpool way”. Except for this, complaints have been made that there was never enough funding by LFC owners in the last few regimes compared to other clubs, such as Chelsea, who won their 3 league titles by spending a lot of money in the last 5-6 years. Similarly, Manchester city spent £703m to win their first title last year. This shows that you need to spend a lot of money to purchase star players but if money is well managed you can still succeed in winning league. The best examples for this are Arsenal and Manchester United. Liverpool football club remain the second most successful English club but they have not won the league title for a very long period according to their standards. It will require a lot of hard work and patience if they have to get into Europe’s elite competition again (UEFA champions league). Brendan Rodgers (LFC’s current manager) has a big task on his hand right now. So, will Liverpool ever return to the summit of English football? Of course they will. Football dominance is never built to last forever and will always be shared in cycles. Manchester United had to wait 26 years for their turn and of course it is completely reliant on a combination of patient and supportive owners to work smartly in utilising the revenue and dealing with backroom issues, the right manager, buying the right players at the right time and that slice of good fortune to provide the catalyst to get you on your way.       BIBLIOGRAPHY: 1)       Anfield Redevelopment’ 2012, Sky Sports, 16 October, accessed 5 April 2013, <http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8166706/Ian-Ayre-says-Anfield-redevelopment-will-enhance-Liverpool-s-transfer-budget   2)      Bayley, J 2012, ‘How Liverpool FC became one of football’s biggest sleeping giants’, Think Football, 8 November, accessed 15 April 2013, <http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/6037>.   3)      Conn, D 2010, ‘Tom Hicks and George Gillett take Liverpool further from new Anfield’, Guardian, 17 March, accessed 16 April 2013, <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/mar/17/tom-hicks-george-gillett-liverpool-anfield>.   4)      Edwards, J 2010, ‘Liverpool 'can show Tom Hicks and George Gillett lied' over loading debt onto club’, Dailymail, 10 October, accessed 16 April 2013, <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318989/Liverpool-Tom-Hicks-George-Gillett-lied-loading-debt-club.html>.   5)      http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/332971-Why-have-Liverpool-F-C-fallen-from-grace-after-1990s/page4  “redfoot & 2fast-T” users   6)      JOHN HENRY W ON THE STADIUM QUESTION’ 2012, Anfield Wrap, 15 June, accessed 9 April 2013, <http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/06/john-w-henry-on-the-stadium-question/>.   7)      Liverpool- An alternative financial plan’ 2010, Football Insights, 16 January, accessed 10 April 2013, <http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/manchester-united-and-liverpool-an-alternative-financial-plan/>.   8)      Stu 2013, ‘Stu's post on English Premier League’, blog post, 9 March 2013, accessed 9 March 2013, <http://sulia.com/channel/english-premier-league/f/2fb4f138-23c5-40eb-a449-806a5d488abf/?source=twitter>.   9)      Volpi, M 2012, ‘Liverpool Walking Alone’, WhatCulture, 9 November, accessed 8 April 2013, <http://whatculture.com/sport/liverpool-walking-alone-what-has-happened-to-anfield.php>.       Interviews: 1)      Interview conducted with school mate, Jack White on 20th March 2)      Interview conducted with Peter Young, cricket mate on 17th March 3)      Interview conducted with Robbie Westley, cricket mate on 17th March [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_fc  Date viewed: 2nd april 2013   [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_England Date viewed: 5th april 2013   [3] http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8166706/Ian-Ayre-says-Anfield-redevelopment-will-enhance-Liverpool-s-transfer-budget  Date Viewed: 5th april 2013 [4] http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/06/john-w-henry-on-the-stadium-question/ Date Viewed:9th April   [5] http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/manchester-united-and-liverpool-an-alternative-financial-plan/  Date Viewed: 10th April 2013   [6] http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/mar/17/tom-hicks-george-gillett-liverpool-anfield Date Viewed: 16th April   [7] http://whatculture.com/sport/liverpool-walking-alone-what-has-happened-to-anfield.php Date Viewed: 8th April [8] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318989/Liverpool-Tom-Hicks-George-Gillett-lied-loading-debt-club.html Date Viewed: 16th April   [9] http://sulia.com/channel/english-premier-league/f/2fb4f138-23c5-40eb-a449-806a5d488abf/?source=twitter Date Viewed: 9th March   [10] http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/332971-Why-have-Liverpool-F-C-fallen-from-grace-after-1990s/page4   [11] Interview conducted with Robbie Westley 17th March [12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Liverpool_F.C._managers Date Viewed” 26th April [13] http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/6037 Date viewed: 15th April [14] Interview conducted with Peter Young and Jack White on 17th and 20th March respectively   Why have Liverpool FC fallen from grace after 1990s?-Fan’s view RESEARCH OUTCOME Liverpool Football Club is one of the most successful English club as it has won 18 League titles, 7 FA cups, 8 League Cups, 5 European Cups and 3 UEFA Cups since it was founded in 1892.[1] The club has played at Anfield stadium since its formation. The most successful period in Liverpool's history was under managers: Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley (1960s-80s) who led the club to 30 honours. But after the introduction of Premier League in 1992, LFC has not won a league title even though they’ve won other honours in the process. There are many reasons for this faltering; not utilising revenue, ownership issues, inconsistent managers and poor transfer dealings. These are discussed below. Not utilising Revenue: Some of the Liverpool fans blame the fact that Liverpool didn’t utilise the revenue earned previously from sponsorships and ticket sales to expand their stadium when the cost was low. Supporters have drawn comparisons with other “BIG” clubs like Manchester United and Arsenal who have utilised the commercial revenue from TV rights and thus have expanded/shifted their stadium. This has resulted in higher revenue earned in terms of ticket sales and better sponsorship deals. Anfield has 45276 seats whereas Manchester United’s Old Trafford has 75811 seats and Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium has 60361 seats.[2] Since 2002 plans to replace Anfield have been in place but this was held back by former owners in 2007 who promised to start building the new stadium in 60 days but had trouble financing the estimated £500 million needed for new stadium because the club was bought with borrowed money and not the owners' capital, and interest rates were high. After the acquisition of Liverpool by Fenway Sports Group in October 2010 the question arose again whether Liverpool would leave Anfield. The owners preferred to stay at Anfield and plans to regenerate the stadium were announced after securing a £25m grant. Liverpool’s managing director Ian Ayre insisted that the planned redevelopment would enhance the club's spending power within the player transfer market. He also supported the notion that Manchester United and Arsenal gain bigger ground in terms of matchday revenue.[3] As one of the twitter users @RichardMurphy91 tweeted “failure to keep up with the revenue generating advances made by others (eg man u) especially internationally”. LFC forum’s users: “Zonal Marked”; stated not making use of commercial revenues, “Red Trilogy” said “we failed to develop the stadium at a time when finances became ultra-key to success” and “Famous Seamus” had the same view.   Matchday Revenue 2011/2012 [4] Ownership: Ownership issues weren’t a major problem until 6 February 2007, when George Gillett and Tom Hicks assumed control of Liverpool F.C. in a deal worth a reported £470 million.[5] The owners made “fake promises” as said by many Liverpool supporters. Hicks and Gillett stated that their foremost priority was gaining silverware, and vowed to start building a new stadium at Stanley Park within 60 days. As said before the stadium was never built. The biggest problem they faced was falling into debts. Upon arriving at Anfield, Hicks and Gillett made clear that they had purchased the club with no debt saddled on top. However, just a year on from the takeover, the co-owners had already agreed on loans, most notably with the Royal Bank of Scotland. In 2009 there were fears that the club could go bankrupt from the debt incurred by the loans from the bank, though the owners managed to refinance the deal for another year. But more than £200 million worth of debt had been piled on to the club.[6] The owners also never established a healthy relationship with the fans[7] and the first manager in their regime, Rafael Benitez. Throughout their tenure the owners made indirect comments on the manager and demotivated him by saying that he wouldn’t get enough transfer funds as well as publicly stating that his position was in threat. As Benitez was the fans’ favourite this didn’t go down well with the fans as they also wanted to see funding in their Liverpool squad and owners fulfilling their promises. In October 2010, as part of a fans' campaign against the ownership, a video entitled Dear Mr Hicks was released virally via YouTube. It featured celebrity fans of the club giving their reasons why they wanted to see a change of ownership. On October 15, 2010, Hicks and Gillett lost ownership of Liverpool F.C to New England Sports Ventures (NESV), for a fee believed to be around £300 million.[8] As @strtbrdsn on twitter replied to my account saying “we were financially outmuscled”[9], as on LFC’s official forum “2fast-T” blamed Hicks and Gillett for taking the club backwards and so did forum user “redfoot”[10] and Robbie Westley, one of my interviewees had only one reason which was problematic reign of Hicks and Gillett who he said stopped the club’s progression[11]. Managerial Changes: Managerial changes over this time have been frequent, as there have been 9 managers throughout these 22 years compared to 4 managers in the 32 years before that.  This has resulted in inconsistency as new managers bring new training methods, style of play and players. Liverpool has won 13 honours in this period but two managers have been particularly blamed for the downfall: Graeme Souness and Roy Hodgson. Souness took over Liverpool from 1991-1994 and won only one cup. His transfer dealings have been criticised by many for being the reason that Liverpool not performed well. This was the most popular view by many LFC supporters on forum/social networks. He never received the fans’ support and so was the case with Roy Hodgson as fans’ support form the basis of team spirit. Roy Hodgson took over LFC from 2010-2011 with his reign only lasting 6 months. He became so unpopular among LFC fans that whenever Liverpool played a match, fans chanted the name of another manager. His unpopularity, failed signings and poor style of play cost him his job. Souness had a win percentage of 42.04 while Hodgson had a poor 41.94[12]. These two have the worst record over the 22 years. Goal Scoring: In the last 6 seasons Liverpool have had a downward trend in goals scored and goals conceded as shown in this chart:   This has resulted in loss of points in the league for LFC thus affecting their position and inability to win the league title. Most goals were scored in 08/09 season where Liverpool came second, the closest ever to winning a premier league title losing by just 4 points. After that they performed really poorly and last season for the first time ever LFC weren’t even able to score 50 goals in the league. The biggest issue always has been poor transfer dealings. New players have mostly not lived up to expectations. Except for a few players, many new players have failed to establish themselves as first team players. Although LFC have spent £601m since introduction of Premier League and have failed to win a league title. As shown Liverpool have spent the 3rd most in English Premier League (EPL) history and still haven’t been able to win a league title whereas Manchester United have won the most league titles by spending the 4th most.     Some of these signings were made by Souness and Hodgson as well as recent manager Kenny Dalglish[13] and most fans complained they were never able to replace the best players. Rather, they brought in average players who were never good enough for LFC like Paul Stewart, Dean Saunders, Paul Konchesky, Milan Jovanovich, Charlie Adam etc. This notion was supported by both Peter Young and Jack White who blamed the new signings on these managers.[14] Some fans even suggest Souness destroyed the “Liverpool way”. Except for this, complaints have been made that there was never enough funding by LFC owners in the last few regimes compared to other clubs, such as Chelsea, who won their 3 league titles by spending a lot of money in the last 5-6 years. Similarly, Manchester city spent £703m to win their first title last year. This shows that you need to spend a lot of money to purchase star players but if money is well managed you can still succeed in winning league. The best examples for this are Arsenal and Manchester United. Liverpool football club remain the second most successful English club but they have not won the league title for a very long period according to their standards. It will require a lot of hard work and patience if they have to get into Europe’s elite competition again (UEFA champions league). Brendan Rodgers (LFC’s current manager) has a big task on his hand right now. So, will Liverpool ever return to the summit of English football? Of course they will. Football dominance is never built to last forever and will always be shared in cycles. Manchester United had to wait 26 years for their turn and of course it is completely reliant on a combination of patient and supportive owners to work smartly in utilising the revenue and dealing with backroom issues, the right manager, buying the right players at the right time and that slice of good fortune to provide the catalyst to get you on your way.       BIBLIOGRAPHY: 1)       Anfield Redevelopment’ 2012, Sky Sports, 16 October, accessed 5 April 2013, <http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8166706/Ian-Ayre-says-Anfield-redevelopment-will-enhance-Liverpool-s-transfer-budget   2)      Bayley, J 2012, ‘How Liverpool FC became one of football’s biggest sleeping giants’, Think Football, 8 November, accessed 15 April 2013, <http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/6037>.   3)      Conn, D 2010, ‘Tom Hicks and George Gillett take Liverpool further from new Anfield’, Guardian, 17 March, accessed 16 April 2013, <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/mar/17/tom-hicks-george-gillett-liverpool-anfield>.   4)      Edwards, J 2010, ‘Liverpool 'can show Tom Hicks and George Gillett lied' over loading debt onto club’, Dailymail, 10 October, accessed 16 April 2013, <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318989/Liverpool-Tom-Hicks-George-Gillett-lied-loading-debt-club.html>.   5)      http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/332971-Why-have-Liverpool-F-C-fallen-from-grace-after-1990s/page4  “redfoot & 2fast-T” users   6)      JOHN HENRY W ON THE STADIUM QUESTION’ 2012, Anfield Wrap, 15 June, accessed 9 April 2013, <http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/06/john-w-henry-on-the-stadium-question/>.   7)      Liverpool- An alternative financial plan’ 2010, Football Insights, 16 January, accessed 10 April 2013, <http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/manchester-united-and-liverpool-an-alternative-financial-plan/>.   8)      Stu 2013, ‘Stu's post on English Premier League’, blog post, 9 March 2013, accessed 9 March 2013, <http://sulia.com/channel/english-premier-league/f/2fb4f138-23c5-40eb-a449-806a5d488abf/?source=twitter>.   9)      Volpi, M 2012, ‘Liverpool Walking Alone’, WhatCulture, 9 November, accessed 8 April 2013, <http://whatculture.com/sport/liverpool-walking-alone-what-has-happened-to-anfield.php>.       Interviews: 1)      Interview conducted with school mate, Jack White on 20th March 2)      Interview conducted with Peter Young, cricket mate on 17th March 3)      Interview conducted with Robbie Westley, cricket mate on 17th March [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_fc  Date viewed: 2nd april 2013   [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_England Date viewed: 5th april 2013   [3] http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8166706/Ian-Ayre-says-Anfield-redevelopment-will-enhance-Liverpool-s-transfer-budget  Date Viewed: 5th april 2013 [4] http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/06/john-w-henry-on-the-stadium-question/ Date Viewed:9th April   [5] http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/manchester-united-and-liverpool-an-alternative-financial-plan/  Date Viewed: 10th April 2013   [6] http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/mar/17/tom-hicks-george-gillett-liverpool-anfield Date Viewed: 16th April   [7] http://whatculture.com/sport/liverpool-walking-alone-what-has-happened-to-anfield.php Date Viewed: 8th April [8] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318989/Liverpool-Tom-Hicks-George-Gillett-lied-loading-debt-club.html Date Viewed: 16th April   [9] http://sulia.com/channel/english-premier-league/f/2fb4f138-23c5-40eb-a449-806a5d488abf/?source=twitter Date Viewed: 9th March   [10] http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/332971-Why-have-Liverpool-F-C-fallen-from-grace-after-1990s/page4   [11] Interview conducted with Robbie Westley 17th March [12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Liverpool_F.C._managers Date Viewed” 26th April [13] http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/6037 Date viewed: 15th April [14] Interview conducted with Peter Young and Jack White on 17th and 20th March respectively   Wed, 22 May 2013 09:34:08 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_My-Research-Project/blog/6532018/173471.html sabee-7 2013-05-22T09:34:08Z The Kop Why have Liverpool FC fallen from grace after 1990s?-Fan’s view RESEARCH OUTCOME Liverpool Football Club is one of the most successful English club as it has won 18 League titles, 7 FA cups, 8 League Cups, 5 European Cups and 3 UEFA Cups since it was founded in 1892.[1] The club has played at Anfield stadium since its formation. The most successful period in Liverpool's history was under managers: Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley (1960s-80s) who led the club to 30 honours. But after the introduction of Premier League in 1992, LFC has not won a league title even though they’ve won other honours in the process. There are many reasons for this faltering; not utilising revenue, ownership issues, inconsistent managers and poor transfer dealings. These are discussed below. Not utilising Revenue: Some of the Liverpool fans blame the fact that Liverpool didn’t utilise the revenue earned previously from sponsorships and ticket sales to expand their stadium when the cost was low. Supporters have drawn comparisons with other “BIG” clubs like Manchester United and Arsenal who have utilised the commercial revenue from TV rights and thus have expanded/shifted their stadium. This has resulted in higher revenue earned in terms of ticket sales and better sponsorship deals. Anfield has 45276 seats whereas Manchester United’s Old Trafford has 75811 seats and Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium has 60361 seats.[2] Since 2002 plans to replace Anfield have been in place but this was held back by former owners in 2007 who promised to start building the new stadium in 60 days but had trouble financing the estimated £500 million needed for new stadium because the club was bought with borrowed money and not the owners' capital, and interest rates were high. After the acquisition of Liverpool by Fenway Sports Group in October 2010 the question arose again whether Liverpool would leave Anfield. The owners preferred to stay at Anfield and plans to regenerate the stadium were announced after securing a £25m grant. Liverpool’s managing director Ian Ayre insisted that the planned redevelopment would enhance the club's spending power within the player transfer market. He also supported the notion that Manchester United and Arsenal gain bigger ground in terms of matchday revenue.[3] As one of the twitter users @RichardMurphy91 tweeted “failure to keep up with the revenue generating advances made by others (eg man u) especially internationally”. LFC forum’s users: “Zonal Marked”; stated not making use of commercial revenues, “Red Trilogy” said “we failed to develop the stadium at a time when finances became ultra-key to success” and “Famous Seamus” had the same view.   Matchday Revenue 2011/2012 [4] Ownership: Ownership issues weren’t a major problem until 6 February 2007, when George Gillett and Tom Hicks assumed control of Liverpool F.C. in a deal worth a reported £470 million.[5] The owners made “fake promises” as said by many Liverpool supporters. Hicks and Gillett stated that their foremost priority was gaining silverware, and vowed to start building a new stadium at Stanley Park within 60 days. As said before the stadium was never built. The biggest problem they faced was falling into debts. Upon arriving at Anfield, Hicks and Gillett made clear that they had purchased the club with no debt saddled on top. However, just a year on from the takeover, the co-owners had already agreed on loans, most notably with the Royal Bank of Scotland. In 2009 there were fears that the club could go bankrupt from the debt incurred by the loans from the bank, though the owners managed to refinance the deal for another year. But more than £200 million worth of debt had been piled on to the club.[6] The owners also never established a healthy relationship with the fans[7] and the first manager in their regime, Rafael Benitez. Throughout their tenure the owners made indirect comments on the manager and demotivated him by saying that he wouldn’t get enough transfer funds as well as publicly stating that his position was in threat. As Benitez was the fans’ favourite this didn’t go down well with the fans as they also wanted to see funding in their Liverpool squad and owners fulfilling their promises. In October 2010, as part of a fans' campaign against the ownership, a video entitled Dear Mr Hicks was released virally via YouTube. It featured celebrity fans of the club giving their reasons why they wanted to see a change of ownership. On October 15, 2010, Hicks and Gillett lost ownership of Liverpool F.C to New England Sports Ventures (NESV), for a fee believed to be around £300 million.[8] As @strtbrdsn on twitter replied to my account saying “we were financially outmuscled”[9], as on LFC’s official forum “2fast-T” blamed Hicks and Gillett for taking the club backwards and so did forum user “redfoot”[10] and Robbie Westley, one of my interviewees had only one reason which was problematic reign of Hicks and Gillett who he said stopped the club’s progression[11]. Managerial Changes: Managerial changes over this time have been frequent, as there have been 9 managers throughout these 22 years compared to 4 managers in the 32 years before that.  This has resulted in inconsistency as new managers bring new training methods, style of play and players. Liverpool has won 13 honours in this period but two managers have been particularly blamed for the downfall: Graeme Souness and Roy Hodgson. Souness took over Liverpool from 1991-1994 and won only one cup. His transfer dealings have been criticised by many for being the reason that Liverpool not performed well. This was the most popular view by many LFC supporters on forum/social networks. He never received the fans’ support and so was the case with Roy Hodgson as fans’ support form the basis of team spirit. Roy Hodgson took over LFC from 2010-2011 with his reign only lasting 6 months. He became so unpopular among LFC fans that whenever Liverpool played a match, fans chanted the name of another manager. His unpopularity, failed signings and poor style of play cost him his job. Souness had a win percentage of 42.04 while Hodgson had a poor 41.94[12]. These two have the worst record over the 22 years. Goal Scoring: In the last 6 seasons Liverpool have had a downward trend in goals scored and goals conceded as shown in this chart:   This has resulted in loss of points in the league for LFC thus affecting their position and inability to win the league title. Most goals were scored in 08/09 season where Liverpool came second, the closest ever to winning a premier league title losing by just 4 points. After that they performed really poorly and last season for the first time ever LFC weren’t even able to score 50 goals in the league. The biggest issue always has been poor transfer dealings. New players have mostly not lived up to expectations. Except for a few players, many new players have failed to establish themselves as first team players. Although LFC have spent £601m since introduction of Premier League and have failed to win a league title. As shown Liverpool have spent the 3rd most in English Premier League (EPL) history and still haven’t been able to win a league title whereas Manchester United have won the most league titles by spending the 4th most.     Some of these signings were made by Souness and Hodgson as well as recent manager Kenny Dalglish[13] and most fans complained they were never able to replace the best players. Rather, they brought in average players who were never good enough for LFC like Paul Stewart, Dean Saunders, Paul Konchesky, Milan Jovanovich, Charlie Adam etc. This notion was supported by both Peter Young and Jack White who blamed the new signings on these managers.[14] Some fans even suggest Souness destroyed the “Liverpool way”. Except for this, complaints have been made that there was never enough funding by LFC owners in the last few regimes compared to other clubs, such as Chelsea, who won their 3 league titles by spending a lot of money in the last 5-6 years. Similarly, Manchester city spent £703m to win their first title last year. This shows that you need to spend a lot of money to purchase star players but if money is well managed you can still succeed in winning league. The best examples for this are Arsenal and Manchester United. Liverpool football club remain the second most successful English club but they have not won the league title for a very long period according to their standards. It will require a lot of hard work and patience if they have to get into Europe’s elite competition again (UEFA champions league). Brendan Rodgers (LFC’s current manager) has a big task on his hand right now. So, will Liverpool ever return to the summit of English football? Of course they will. Football dominance is never built to last forever and will always be shared in cycles. Manchester United had to wait 26 years for their turn and of course it is completely reliant on a combination of patient and supportive owners to work smartly in utilising the revenue and dealing with backroom issues, the right manager, buying the right players at the right time and that slice of good fortune to provide the catalyst to get you on your way.       BIBLIOGRAPHY: 1)       Anfield Redevelopment’ 2012, Sky Sports, 16 October, accessed 5 April 2013, <http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8166706/Ian-Ayre-says-Anfield-redevelopment-will-enhance-Liverpool-s-transfer-budget   2)      Bayley, J 2012, ‘How Liverpool FC became one of football’s biggest sleeping giants’, Think Football, 8 November, accessed 15 April 2013, <http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/6037>.   3)      Conn, D 2010, ‘Tom Hicks and George Gillett take Liverpool further from new Anfield’, Guardian, 17 March, accessed 16 April 2013, <http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/mar/17/tom-hicks-george-gillett-liverpool-anfield>.   4)      Edwards, J 2010, ‘Liverpool 'can show Tom Hicks and George Gillett lied' over loading debt onto club’, Dailymail, 10 October, accessed 16 April 2013, <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318989/Liverpool-Tom-Hicks-George-Gillett-lied-loading-debt-club.html>.   5)      http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/332971-Why-have-Liverpool-F-C-fallen-from-grace-after-1990s/page4  “redfoot & 2fast-T” users   6)      JOHN HENRY W ON THE STADIUM QUESTION’ 2012, Anfield Wrap, 15 June, accessed 9 April 2013, <http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/06/john-w-henry-on-the-stadium-question/>.   7)      Liverpool- An alternative financial plan’ 2010, Football Insights, 16 January, accessed 10 April 2013, <http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/manchester-united-and-liverpool-an-alternative-financial-plan/>.   8)      Stu 2013, ‘Stu's post on English Premier League’, blog post, 9 March 2013, accessed 9 March 2013, <http://sulia.com/channel/english-premier-league/f/2fb4f138-23c5-40eb-a449-806a5d488abf/?source=twitter>.   9)      Volpi, M 2012, ‘Liverpool Walking Alone’, WhatCulture, 9 November, accessed 8 April 2013, <http://whatculture.com/sport/liverpool-walking-alone-what-has-happened-to-anfield.php>.       Interviews: 1)      Interview conducted with school mate, Jack White on 20th March 2)      Interview conducted with Peter Young, cricket mate on 17th March 3)      Interview conducted with Robbie Westley, cricket mate on 17th March [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_fc  Date viewed: 2nd april 2013   [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_football_stadiums_in_England Date viewed: 5th april 2013   [3] http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8166706/Ian-Ayre-says-Anfield-redevelopment-will-enhance-Liverpool-s-transfer-budget  Date Viewed: 5th april 2013 [4] http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2012/06/john-w-henry-on-the-stadium-question/ Date Viewed:9th April   [5] http://footballinsights.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/manchester-united-and-liverpool-an-alternative-financial-plan/  Date Viewed: 10th April 2013   [6] http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/mar/17/tom-hicks-george-gillett-liverpool-anfield Date Viewed: 16th April   [7] http://whatculture.com/sport/liverpool-walking-alone-what-has-happened-to-anfield.php Date Viewed: 8th April [8] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318989/Liverpool-Tom-Hicks-George-Gillett-lied-loading-debt-club.html Date Viewed: 16th April   [9] http://sulia.com/channel/english-premier-league/f/2fb4f138-23c5-40eb-a449-806a5d488abf/?source=twitter Date Viewed: 9th March   [10] http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/332971-Why-have-Liverpool-F-C-fallen-from-grace-after-1990s/page4   [11] Interview conducted with Robbie Westley 17th March [12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Liverpool_F.C._managers Date Viewed” 26th April [13] http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/6037 Date viewed: 15th April [14] Interview conducted with Peter Young and Jack White on 17th and 20th March respectively   and, fall, gillett, hicks, hodgson, lfc, rodgers, souness, transfers nonadult false My Research Project text blog and,fall,gillett,hicks,hodgson,lfc,rodgers,souness,transfers 106 2 3.5 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=30820005&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_B.jpg false 7 0 6532018 30820005 Kopite 1175 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Sergi-Canos-at-Melwood-to-sign-for-Liverpool/photo/19088528/173471.html Wed, 22 May 2013 09:07:19 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Sergi-Canos-at-Melwood-to-sign-for-Liverpool/photo/19088528/173471.html reddave321 2013-05-22T09:07:19Z The Kop nonadult false Sergi Canos at Melwood to sign for Liverpool photo 66 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=44426225&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18727551_173471_44426225_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19088528 44426225 Kopite 11620 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Transfers-may-not-be-tha-answer/blog/6532014/173471.html   Season’s over and like all fans we might as well jump into the speculations to pass time. Players coming in or going out is to be expected, but to what extent. What should be expectations or what standard should we set in the coming season? Pls join in this conversation guys… First I am going to categorise the current squad at LFC on a personal base. Group One Reina, Johnson, Agger, Lucas, Stevie, Countinho, Sturridge & Suarez. I assume this group is SAFE   Group Two Suso, Borini, Enrique, Downing, Hendo, Allen & Skrtel . On shaky grounds   Group Three Jones, Shelvey,  Carroll, Spearing & Coates; At High Risk, to be sold   Last Group Sterling, Ibe, Wisdom, Coady, Morgan, Kelly & Assaidi; Prospects, (could be utilised for cup games)   Looking at this after nbreaking down,  I thought , wow, we actually don’t have much of a group to be competing at the top level for next season is it?   So then, can we actually expect a lot next season or realistically will it be possible for FSG to pump in that much cash to overhaul the squad overnight. It will take big money huh. Another debatable point is, suppose we sell off the all the players in the High Risk category and some from the shaky grounds group, from this cash how can we guarantee we would get better quality and not worst than what we already have? A chicken and egg situation   My simple suggestion would be to stick with all the players above. Just like giving a manager a longer term, we should do it with the players as well. An example of this would be JC, till Rafa moved him into the CB position he was virtually another fringe player.   Of course it will be for the best if we could add a couple more quality players, because if we hang on to all the players currently in our books, we will have a deep enough squad.  However, the challenge will lie in the manager. First, BR has to set a realistic target for the coming season. After that BR may have to work out 2 or 3 groups and work out 2 or 3 different strategies  to suit each group. OPTIONS.! The different set of squad or mix and matching may work playing against so called ‘weaker’ opponents and cup games, keeping players fresh and active however. My basic take is, players who are given a chance will be better prospects than newer, untried ones. Chip in your thoughts folks..     Season’s over and like all fans we might as well jump into the speculations to pass time. Players coming in or going out is to be expected, but to what extent. What should be expectations or what standard should we set in the coming season? Pls join in this conversation guys… First I am going to categorise the current squad at LFC on a personal base. Group One Reina, Johnson, Agger, Lucas, Stevie, Countinho, Sturridge & Suarez. I assume this group is SAFE   Group Two Suso, Borini, Enrique, Downing, Hendo, Allen & Skrtel . On shaky grounds   Group Three Jones, Shelvey,  Carroll, Spearing & Coates; At High Risk, to be sold   Last Group Sterling, Ibe, Wisdom, Coady, Morgan, Kelly & Assaidi; Prospects, (could be utilised for cup games)   Looking at this after nbreaking down,  I thought , wow, we actually don’t have much of a group to be competing at the top level for next season is it?   So then, can we actually expect a lot next season or realistically will it be possible for FSG to pump in that much cash to overhaul the squad overnight. It will take big money huh. Another debatable point is, suppose we sell off the all the players in the High Risk category and some from the shaky grounds group, from this cash how can we guarantee we would get better quality and not worst than what we already have? A chicken and egg situation   My simple suggestion would be to stick with all the players above. Just like giving a manager a longer term, we should do it with the players as well. An example of this would be JC, till Rafa moved him into the CB position he was virtually another fringe player.   Of course it will be for the best if we could add a couple more quality players, because if we hang on to all the players currently in our books, we will have a deep enough squad.  However, the challenge will lie in the manager. First, BR has to set a realistic target for the coming season. After that BR may have to work out 2 or 3 groups and work out 2 or 3 different strategies  to suit each group. OPTIONS.! The different set of squad or mix and matching may work playing against so called ‘weaker’ opponents and cup games, keeping players fresh and active however. My basic take is, players who are given a chance will be better prospects than newer, untried ones. Chip in your thoughts folks..   Wed, 22 May 2013 08:16:27 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Transfers-may-not-be-tha-answer/blog/6532014/173471.html Miskinyte 2013-05-22T08:16:27Z The Kop   Season’s over and like all fans we might as well jump into the speculations to pass time. Players coming in or going out is to be expected, but to what extent. What should be expectations or what standard should we set in the coming season? Pls join in this conversation guys… First I am going to categorise the current squad at LFC on a personal base. Group One Reina, Johnson, Agger, Lucas, Stevie, Countinho, Sturridge & Suarez. I assume this group is SAFE   Group Two Suso, Borini, Enrique, Downing, Hendo, Allen & Skrtel . On shaky grounds   Group Three Jones, Shelvey,  Carroll, Spearing & Coates; At High Risk, to be sold   Last Group Sterling, Ibe, Wisdom, Coady, Morgan, Kelly & Assaidi; Prospects, (could be utilised for cup games)   Looking at this after nbreaking down,  I thought , wow, we actually don’t have much of a group to be competing at the top level for next season is it?   So then, can we actually expect a lot next season or realistically will it be possible for FSG to pump in that much cash to overhaul the squad overnight. It will take big money huh. Another debatable point is, suppose we sell off the all the players in the High Risk category and some from the shaky grounds group, from this cash how can we guarantee we would get better quality and not worst than what we already have? A chicken and egg situation   My simple suggestion would be to stick with all the players above. Just like giving a manager a longer term, we should do it with the players as well. An example of this would be JC, till Rafa moved him into the CB position he was virtually another fringe player.   Of course it will be for the best if we could add a couple more quality players, because if we hang on to all the players currently in our books, we will have a deep enough squad.  However, the challenge will lie in the manager. First, BR has to set a realistic target for the coming season. After that BR may have to work out 2 or 3 groups and work out 2 or 3 different strategies  to suit each group. OPTIONS.! The different set of squad or mix and matching may work playing against so called ‘weaker’ opponents and cup games, keeping players fresh and active however. My basic take is, players who are given a chance will be better prospects than newer, untried ones. Chip in your thoughts folks..   nonadult false Transfers may not be tha answer text blog 201 2 3.5 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=30433583&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_B.jpg false 8 1 6532014 30433583 Silver 47325 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Rumour-has-it/blog/6532010/173471.html It is a song by Adele but I am here to talk about Liverpool transfer. 1. Sergio Canos - the 16 year old Barcelona player which previously I have said as our first signing according to Spanish report and he was apparently spotted at Melwood according to a photo 10 hours ago. Latest news reported that we actually already signed him an hour ago. [image] 2. Kolo Toure - He is a sensible transfer to me even though he is old. Kolo Toure is one of the Invincibles of Arsenal. He is strong and obviously possessed sufficient amount of experience at age of 32. Even though he will demand high wages, he is a free transfer. An experience replacement for Carragher and also possess game reading ability like Carragher. The idea is simple for me. If we are going to sign him, probably 2 years contract, can provide more time for Rodgers to find long term replacement since Carragher announced his retirement suddenly at middle of the season. If we doesn't sign him who is available at free transfer, other clubs will be ready to cut our throat, demanding high transfer fee for their top centrebacks because we are desperate. Getting Toure not only will give us more time to find the right one but with more room for negotiation. I'm not writing off the possibility that Rodgers will get him as back-up together with another long term replacement. But, I believe that signing Toure first would bring advantage to the negotiation table if that happens.    3. Begovic - Stoke City goalkeeper. Sarajevo-based paper Dnevni Avaz report “that everything has been arranged and is waiting for a signature”. A good shot stopper. Some said Downing could be used as exchange which is possible since it is difficult to get deals for Downing. Stoke City have a lot of cleansheets this season and the strongest defensive team at beginning of the season. In my opinion, however, this news is unlikely to happen unless Begovic willing to be back-up keeper replacing Jones. Begovic would have to fight with Reina for the spot. Reina will be the first choice even if we signed Begovic. I don't think Begovic is better than Reina in anyway and don't really think that Reina will be leaving for Barcelona. A goalkeeper career span is long so Reina probably will be staying for few more seasons.    4. Andy Carroll - 15m was said to agreed. Even though the loan deal stated 17m clause but 2m difference doesn't really matters it seems. Rodgers currently have Suarez, Sturridge and Borini. Probably, he felt there is no place for Carroll if he is back. If you put yourself in Carroll shoe, I believe Carroll would rather stay in West Ham than Liverpool. West Ham made Carroll as focal point, playing around him. If Carroll comes back to Liverpool, he would just be used sparingly ahead of Borini but behind Sturridge and Suarez. In view of future, West Ham would be much better choice than Liverpool. Big Sam appreciates him more than Rodgers. If you all thinks about losses, then thinks about salary that we are going to save. Sell him now is nothing different than loan him for another season or until his contract expires. Latest news: This Plan B gets injured for 4 months. He seems to be too injury prone. It is a song by Adele but I am here to talk about Liverpool transfer. 1. Sergio Canos - the 16 year old Barcelona player which previously I have said as our first signing according to Spanish report and he was apparently spotted at Melwood according to a photo 10 hours ago. Latest news reported that we actually already signed him an hour ago. [image] 2. Kolo Toure - He is a sensible transfer to me even though he is old. Kolo Toure is one of the Invincibles of Arsenal. He is strong and obviously possessed sufficient amount of experience at age of 32. Even though he will demand high wages, he is a free transfer. An experience replacement for Carragher and also possess game reading ability like Carragher. The idea is simple for me. If we are going to sign him, probably 2 years contract, can provide more time for Rodgers to find long term replacement since Carragher announced his retirement suddenly at middle of the season. If we doesn't sign him who is available at free transfer, other clubs will be ready to cut our throat, demanding high transfer fee for their top centrebacks because we are desperate. Getting Toure not only will give us more time to find the right one but with more room for negotiation. I'm not writing off the possibility that Rodgers will get him as back-up together with another long term replacement. But, I believe that signing Toure first would bring advantage to the negotiation table if that happens.    3. Begovic - Stoke City goalkeeper. Sarajevo-based paper Dnevni Avaz report “that everything has been arranged and is waiting for a signature”. A good shot stopper. Some said Downing could be used as exchange which is possible since it is difficult to get deals for Downing. Stoke City have a lot of cleansheets this season and the strongest defensive team at beginning of the season. In my opinion, however, this news is unlikely to happen unless Begovic willing to be back-up keeper replacing Jones. Begovic would have to fight with Reina for the spot. Reina will be the first choice even if we signed Begovic. I don't think Begovic is better than Reina in anyway and don't really think that Reina will be leaving for Barcelona. A goalkeeper career span is long so Reina probably will be staying for few more seasons.    4. Andy Carroll - 15m was said to agreed. Even though the loan deal stated 17m clause but 2m difference doesn't really matters it seems. Rodgers currently have Suarez, Sturridge and Borini. Probably, he felt there is no place for Carroll if he is back. If you put yourself in Carroll shoe, I believe Carroll would rather stay in West Ham than Liverpool. West Ham made Carroll as focal point, playing around him. If Carroll comes back to Liverpool, he would just be used sparingly ahead of Borini but behind Sturridge and Suarez. In view of future, West Ham would be much better choice than Liverpool. Big Sam appreciates him more than Rodgers. If you all thinks about losses, then thinks about salary that we are going to save. Sell him now is nothing different than loan him for another season or until his contract expires. Latest news: This Plan B gets injured for 4 months. He seems to be too injury prone. Wed, 22 May 2013 07:15:14 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Rumour-has-it/blog/6532010/173471.html Joeleeq 2013-05-22T07:15:14Z The Kop It is a song by Adele but I am here to talk about Liverpool transfer. 1. Sergio Canos - the 16 year old Barcelona player which previously I have said as our first signing according to Spanish report and he was apparently spotted at Melwood according to a photo 10 hours ago. Latest news reported that we actually already signed him an hour ago. [image] 2. Kolo Toure - He is a sensible transfer to me even though he is old. Kolo Toure is one of the Invincibles of Arsenal. He is strong and obviously possessed sufficient amount of experience at age of 32. Even though he will demand high wages, he is a free transfer. An experience replacement for Carragher and also possess game reading ability like Carragher. The idea is simple for me. If we are going to sign him, probably 2 years contract, can provide more time for Rodgers to find long term replacement since Carragher announced his retirement suddenly at middle of the season. If we doesn't sign him who is available at free transfer, other clubs will be ready to cut our throat, demanding high transfer fee for their top centrebacks because we are desperate. Getting Toure not only will give us more time to find the right one but with more room for negotiation. I'm not writing off the possibility that Rodgers will get him as back-up together with another long term replacement. But, I believe that signing Toure first would bring advantage to the negotiation table if that happens.    3. Begovic - Stoke City goalkeeper. Sarajevo-based paper Dnevni Avaz report “that everything has been arranged and is waiting for a signature”. A good shot stopper. Some said Downing could be used as exchange which is possible since it is difficult to get deals for Downing. Stoke City have a lot of cleansheets this season and the strongest defensive team at beginning of the season. In my opinion, however, this news is unlikely to happen unless Begovic willing to be back-up keeper replacing Jones. Begovic would have to fight with Reina for the spot. Reina will be the first choice even if we signed Begovic. I don't think Begovic is better than Reina in anyway and don't really think that Reina will be leaving for Barcelona. A goalkeeper career span is long so Reina probably will be staying for few more seasons.    4. Andy Carroll - 15m was said to agreed. Even though the loan deal stated 17m clause but 2m difference doesn't really matters it seems. Rodgers currently have Suarez, Sturridge and Borini. Probably, he felt there is no place for Carroll if he is back. If you put yourself in Carroll shoe, I believe Carroll would rather stay in West Ham than Liverpool. West Ham made Carroll as focal point, playing around him. If Carroll comes back to Liverpool, he would just be used sparingly ahead of Borini but behind Sturridge and Suarez. In view of future, West Ham would be much better choice than Liverpool. Big Sam appreciates him more than Rodgers. If you all thinks about losses, then thinks about salary that we are going to save. Sell him now is nothing different than loan him for another season or until his contract expires. Latest news: This Plan B gets injured for 4 months. He seems to be too injury prone. nonadult false Rumour has it text blog 279 1 5.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=44642161&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18754024_173471_44642161_ap_160X120.jpg false 6 0 6532010 44642161 Gold 51560 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_15M-deal-subject-to-Carroll-agreeing-personal-terms/photo/19088292/173471.html Wed, 22 May 2013 06:47:11 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_15M-deal-subject-to-Carroll-agreeing-personal-terms/photo/19088292/173471.html cfleejb 2013-05-22T06:47:11Z The Kop nonadult false 15M deal subject to Carroll agreeing personal terms photo 21 1 5.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=31357619&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_15864245_173471_31357619_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19088292 31357619 On the Bench 362360 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Farewells-and-goodbyes-Pt-2/blog/6531998/173471.html Forgot some important ones the last time around, including two English gentlemen and a funky Italian. 1) Michael Owen and David Beckham What a coincidence that two of the brightest stars England produced in the last two decades or so are calling time on their playing careers at almost the same time - but the path they took could not be more different. While Beckham left the way he carried out his career - a flash of light, stardust and tributes from around the world of football for a truly international star - Owen's career fizzled out, almost unheralded, at the Premier League "outpost" of Stoke. Yet, Owen was arguably the better player, at least at the beginning of his career. Remember the sensation he created when he made his debut at the World Cup at a tender age and scored a goal for the ages. He went on to have a glittering career at Liverpool and has etched his name among the legendary strikers who graced this club. Some of his goals will be forever remembered for their quality and their importance. But injuries and the upheavals that befall this club took their toll on Owen. He became surplus to requirements here under shifting managerial and ownership regimes, and moved out. Like Beckham, he too moved through a whole number of clubs, and continued to produce, but it was clear that from the time he left Liverpool, his career was on a gradual downtrend. And this quiet man left quietly last weekend, almost lost in the shuffle of high-profile goodbyes. But kudos to the Stoke fans who, despite Owen not doing much at all at their club during his short stay, gave him a standing applause. He will also be always applauded by the supporters of Liverpool for all he did for the club. YNWA, Michael. As for Beckham, he parlayed his better-than-average skill into global fame. Chris Waddle is right to say that Beckham probably wouldn't make it into the Top 1000 players of all time in terms of ability, but he had that indefinable something that made him stand out. He wasn't a bad player, but his skills did not match his reach. Yet, he shared something with Owen - humility. Beckham is such a nice guy that it is difficult to hate him despite his United connections! For these two English icons . . . Fare thee well   2) Roberto Mancini He came, he stole the title from under United's nose - and he's gone. He turned Ferguson's perennial "noisy neighbours" into his worst nightmare, if only for one season. And that hair, Balotelli, Tevez . . . mamma mia! Farewell   Forgot some important ones the last time around, including two English gentlemen and a funky Italian. 1) Michael Owen and David Beckham What a coincidence that two of the brightest stars England produced in the last two decades or so are calling time on their playing careers at almost the same time - but the path they took could not be more different. While Beckham left the way he carried out his career - a flash of light, stardust and tributes from around the world of football for a truly international star - Owen's career fizzled out, almost unheralded, at the Premier League "outpost" of Stoke. Yet, Owen was arguably the better player, at least at the beginning of his career. Remember the sensation he created when he made his debut at the World Cup at a tender age and scored a goal for the ages. He went on to have a glittering career at Liverpool and has etched his name among the legendary strikers who graced this club. Some of his goals will be forever remembered for their quality and their importance. But injuries and the upheavals that befall this club took their toll on Owen. He became surplus to requirements here under shifting managerial and ownership regimes, and moved out. Like Beckham, he too moved through a whole number of clubs, and continued to produce, but it was clear that from the time he left Liverpool, his career was on a gradual downtrend. And this quiet man left quietly last weekend, almost lost in the shuffle of high-profile goodbyes. But kudos to the Stoke fans who, despite Owen not doing much at all at their club during his short stay, gave him a standing applause. He will also be always applauded by the supporters of Liverpool for all he did for the club. YNWA, Michael. As for Beckham, he parlayed his better-than-average skill into global fame. Chris Waddle is right to say that Beckham probably wouldn't make it into the Top 1000 players of all time in terms of ability, but he had that indefinable something that made him stand out. He wasn't a bad player, but his skills did not match his reach. Yet, he shared something with Owen - humility. Beckham is such a nice guy that it is difficult to hate him despite his United connections! For these two English icons . . . Fare thee well   2) Roberto Mancini He came, he stole the title from under United's nose - and he's gone. He turned Ferguson's perennial "noisy neighbours" into his worst nightmare, if only for one season. And that hair, Balotelli, Tevez . . . mamma mia! Farewell   Wed, 22 May 2013 05:41:24 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Farewells-and-goodbyes-Pt-2/blog/6531998/173471.html Kopola 2013-05-22T05:41:24Z The Kop Forgot some important ones the last time around, including two English gentlemen and a funky Italian. 1) Michael Owen and David Beckham What a coincidence that two of the brightest stars England produced in the last two decades or so are calling time on their playing careers at almost the same time - but the path they took could not be more different. While Beckham left the way he carried out his career - a flash of light, stardust and tributes from around the world of football for a truly international star - Owen's career fizzled out, almost unheralded, at the Premier League "outpost" of Stoke. Yet, Owen was arguably the better player, at least at the beginning of his career. Remember the sensation he created when he made his debut at the World Cup at a tender age and scored a goal for the ages. He went on to have a glittering career at Liverpool and has etched his name among the legendary strikers who graced this club. Some of his goals will be forever remembered for their quality and their importance. But injuries and the upheavals that befall this club took their toll on Owen. He became surplus to requirements here under shifting managerial and ownership regimes, and moved out. Like Beckham, he too moved through a whole number of clubs, and continued to produce, but it was clear that from the time he left Liverpool, his career was on a gradual downtrend. And this quiet man left quietly last weekend, almost lost in the shuffle of high-profile goodbyes. But kudos to the Stoke fans who, despite Owen not doing much at all at their club during his short stay, gave him a standing applause. He will also be always applauded by the supporters of Liverpool for all he did for the club. YNWA, Michael. As for Beckham, he parlayed his better-than-average skill into global fame. Chris Waddle is right to say that Beckham probably wouldn't make it into the Top 1000 players of all time in terms of ability, but he had that indefinable something that made him stand out. He wasn't a bad player, but his skills did not match his reach. Yet, he shared something with Owen - humility. Beckham is such a nice guy that it is difficult to hate him despite his United connections! For these two English icons . . . Fare thee well   2) Roberto Mancini He came, he stole the title from under United's nose - and he's gone. He turned Ferguson's perennial "noisy neighbours" into his worst nightmare, if only for one season. And that hair, Balotelli, Tevez . . . mamma mia! 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to go to Melwood and meet the players under King Kenny The pleasure to go to Melwood and meet the players under King Kenny Wed, 22 May 2013 01:42:45 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_daglishjpg/photo/19086998/173471.html Marty Robinson 2013-05-22T01:42:45Z The Kop The pleasure to go to Melwood and meet the players under King Kenny nonadult false daglish.jpg photo 14 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46846282&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19017486_173471_46846282_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19086998 46846282 Kopite 2930 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_donijpg/photo/19087000/173471.html The pleasure to go to Melwood and meet the players under King Kenny The pleasure to go to Melwood and meet the players under King Kenny Wed, 22 May 2013 01:42:45 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_donijpg/photo/19087000/173471.html Marty Robinson 2013-05-22T01:42:45Z The Kop The pleasure to go to Melwood and meet the players 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http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19017486_173471_46846282_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19086992 46846282 Kopite 2930 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Daniel-Agger-/photo/19086958/173471.html Wed, 22 May 2013 01:38:30 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Daniel-Agger-/photo/19086958/173471.html Marty Robinson 2013-05-22T01:38:30Z The Kop nonadult false Daniel Agger photo 8 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46846282&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19017486_173471_46846282_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19086958 46846282 Kopite 2930 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Uh-oh-here-we-go-again/blog/6531952/173471.html I am going to say how I feel - from most of the blogs I have seen people have a very positive view of the season, I am sorry I dont.  This season has been a competitive disaster we have not been competitive in any competition. Yes we have advanced one more league position, yes we have scored more goals which is great but the truth is we didnt threaten to win any competition or to qualify for Europe. We only beat Spurs of the top six - For me that ranks this season as bad.  Okay - I write the season off as transition as we are told it is, so what should a transition year give me - the core of my team. 1) settled goalkeeper 2) settled defence with some cover 3) Midfield balanced between defence and flair 4) 4 Strikers and effective Plan B when its not working Now this is what I observe 1) settled goalkeeper - no - it looks like we are in the market for a new one to bed in 2) settled defence with some cover - the mainstay of our defence the last three months retired and rumours of several of the experienced core leaving - which means a rebuild.  3) Midfield - looks good although I think its a little short of goals  4) 4 strikers and plan B - we have 2 proper strikers and 1 of them is banned at start of next season and may well be sold. As to Plan B - We are selling plan b as quickly as we can. Looks to me like a rebuild at the back is being done this summer. My experience is that takes half a season to bed in. We are short at the front and so often this season we didnt have a plan B.  So unless we get lucky and the players click I figure on a similar season next year picking up as we head into the spring. I think we will finish higher because Everton will tail off, but I fear CL will be beyond us again. Hope I am proved wrong                             I am going to say how I feel - from most of the blogs I have seen people have a very positive view of the season, I am sorry I dont.  This season has been a competitive disaster we have not been competitive in any competition. Yes we have advanced one more league position, yes we have scored more goals which is great but the truth is we didnt threaten to win any competition or to qualify for Europe. We only beat Spurs of the top six - For me that ranks this season as bad.  Okay - I write the season off as transition as we are told it is, so what should a transition year give me - the core of my team. 1) settled goalkeeper 2) settled defence with some cover 3) Midfield balanced between defence and flair 4) 4 Strikers and effective Plan B when its not working Now this is what I observe 1) settled goalkeeper - no - it looks like we are in the market for a new one to bed in 2) settled defence with some cover - the mainstay of our defence the last three months retired and rumours of several of the experienced core leaving - which means a rebuild.  3) Midfield - looks good although I think its a little short of goals  4) 4 strikers and plan B - we have 2 proper strikers and 1 of them is banned at start of next season and may well be sold. As to Plan B - We are selling plan b as quickly as we can. Looks to me like a rebuild at the back is being done this summer. My experience is that takes half a season to bed in. We are short at the front and so often this season we didnt have a plan B.  So unless we get lucky and the players click I figure on a similar season next year picking up as we head into the spring. I think we will finish higher because Everton will tail off, but I fear CL will be beyond us again. Hope I am proved wrong                             Tue, 21 May 2013 22:40:05 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Uh-oh-here-we-go-again/blog/6531952/173471.html Kilvenny 2013-05-21T22:40:05Z The Kop I am going to say how I feel - from most of the blogs I have seen people have a very positive view of the season, I am sorry I dont.  This season has been a competitive disaster we have not been competitive in any competition. Yes we have advanced one more league position, yes we have scored more goals which is great but the truth is we didnt threaten to win any competition or to qualify for Europe. We only beat Spurs of the top six - For me that ranks this season as bad.  Okay - I write the season off as transition as we are told it is, so what should a transition year give me - the core of my team. 1) settled goalkeeper 2) settled defence with some cover 3) Midfield balanced between defence and flair 4) 4 Strikers and effective Plan B when its not working Now this is what I observe 1) settled goalkeeper - no - it looks like we are in the market for a new one to bed in 2) settled defence with some cover - the mainstay of our defence the last three months retired and rumours of several of the experienced core leaving - which means a rebuild.  3) Midfield - looks good although I think its a little short of goals  4) 4 strikers and plan B - we have 2 proper strikers and 1 of them is banned at start of next season and may well be sold. As to Plan B - We are selling plan b as quickly as we can. Looks to me like a rebuild at the back is being done this summer. My experience is that takes half a season to bed in. We are short at the front and so often this season we didnt have a plan B.  So unless we get lucky and the players click I figure on a similar season next year picking up as we head into the spring. I think we will finish higher because Everton will tail off, but I fear CL will be beyond us again. Hope I am proved wrong                             nonadult false Uh oh - here we go again text blog 235 10 2.8 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=33673737&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_C.jpg false 11 0 6531952 33673737 Bronze 17590 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_kolo-who/blog/6531950/173471.html let me first condratulate JC23 for his loyalty and service  to LFC. this out of the way,media reports are suggesting the capture of kolo toure from Mancity. i cannot fathom why LFC should go in for Kolo. is it because he is a free transfer? For goodnnes sake,Kolo is not the type of player to sign at this stage of our rebuilding.He doesnt reflect the ambition we all have been made to believe in.I dont have any personal vendetta aginst kolo but he has seen his better days and we at LFC need players with real ambition and drive. This signing if it is true sends the wrong signals about our forward march. Kolo is in the twilight of his career pleaaaaaase!!! what happened to the policy of young,hungry and talented players.? let me first condratulate JC23 for his loyalty and service  to LFC. this out of the way,media reports are suggesting the capture of kolo toure from Mancity. i cannot fathom why LFC should go in for Kolo. is it because he is a free transfer? For goodnnes sake,Kolo is not the type of player to sign at this stage of our rebuilding.He doesnt reflect the ambition we all have been made to believe in.I dont have any personal vendetta aginst kolo but he has seen his better days and we at LFC need players with real ambition and drive. This signing if it is true sends the wrong signals about our forward march. Kolo is in the twilight of his career pleaaaaaase!!! what happened to the policy of young,hungry and talented players.? Tue, 21 May 2013 22:11:03 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_kolo-who/blog/6531950/173471.html steviesuar87 2013-05-21T22:11:03Z The Kop let me first condratulate JC23 for his loyalty and service  to LFC. this out of the way,media reports are suggesting the capture of kolo toure from Mancity. i cannot fathom why LFC should go in for Kolo. is it because he is a free transfer? For goodnnes sake,Kolo is not the type of player to sign at this stage of our rebuilding.He doesnt reflect the ambition we all have been made to believe in.I dont have any personal vendetta aginst kolo but he has seen his better days and we at LFC need players with real ambition and drive. This signing if it is true sends the wrong signals about our forward march. Kolo is in the twilight of his career pleaaaaaase!!! what happened to the policy of young,hungry and talented players.? nonadult false kolo who? text blog 219 3 4.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=30405264&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/user/defaultImage_160x120_D.jpg false 12 0 6531950 30405264 Kopite 2840 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_thankscarra/photo/19085942/173471.html Digital painting tribute to a Legend. Digital painting tribute to a Legend. Tue, 21 May 2013 22:08:51 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_thankscarra/photo/19085942/173471.html Red_LoKO 2013-05-21T22:08:51Z Jamie Carragher The Kop Digital painting tribute to a Legend. jamie carragher nonadult false #thankscarra photo jamie carragher 26 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46996008&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19085978_173471_46996008_ap_160X120.jpg false 1 Jamie Carragher 1 19085942 46996008 Kopite 800 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_My-son/photo/19085836/173471.html Edward my son Edward my son Tue, 21 May 2013 21:48:41 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_My-son/photo/19085836/173471.html Lauralfckopite 2013-05-21T21:48:41Z The Kop Edward my son nonadult false My son photo 13 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46988888&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19082200_173471_46988888_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19085836 46988888 Kopite 870 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085826/173471.html Tue, 21 May 2013 21:47:32 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085826/173471.html Lauralfckopite 2013-05-21T21:47:32Z The Kop nonadult false image.jpg photo 12 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46988888&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19082200_173471_46988888_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19085826 46988888 Kopite 870 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_thankscarra/photo/19085824/173471.html Digital painting tribute to a Reds Legend. Digital painting tribute to a Reds Legend. Tue, 21 May 2013 21:47:25 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_thankscarra/photo/19085824/173471.html Red_LoKO 2013-05-21T21:47:25Z Jamie Carragher The Kop Digital painting tribute to a Reds Legend. carra, carragher, jamie carragher nonadult false #thankscarra photo carra,carragher,jamie carragher 17 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46996008&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19085978_173471_46996008_ap_160X120.jpg false 1 Jamie Carragher 0 19085824 46996008 Kopite 800 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085816/173471.html Tue, 21 May 2013 21:46:16 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085816/173471.html Lauralfckopite 2013-05-21T21:46:16Z The Kop nonadult false image.jpg photo 14 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46988888&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19082200_173471_46988888_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19085816 46988888 Kopite 870 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085812/173471.html Tue, 21 May 2013 21:45:39 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085812/173471.html Lauralfckopite 2013-05-21T21:45:39Z The Kop nonadult false image.jpg photo 12 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46988888&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19082200_173471_46988888_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19085812 46988888 Kopite 870 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085808/173471.html Tue, 21 May 2013 21:45:04 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_imagejpg/photo/19085808/173471.html Lauralfckopite 2013-05-21T21:45:04Z The Kop nonadult false image.jpg photo 13 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46988888&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19082200_173471_46988888_ap_160X120.jpg false 0 0 19085808 46988888 Kopite 870 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46996008&as=173471 Hi :) I hail from Cape Town , South Africa and have been a Red since 8 years old. I am an artist and CG Animator and recently football has become part of my inspiration.   Check out mothercityreds.co.za for a look inside our humble little club, where we meet up with many other Reds fans and sing our hearts out, week in and week out! Hi :) I hail from Cape Town , South Africa and have been a Red since 8 years old. I am an artist and CG Animator and recently football has become part of my inspiration.   Check out mothercityreds.co.za for a look inside our humble little club, where we meet up with many other Reds fans and sing our hearts out, week in and week out! Tue, 21 May 2013 21:45:00 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46996008&as=173471 Red_LoKO 2013-05-21T21:45:00Z The Kop Hi :) I hail from Cape Town , South Africa and have been a Red since 8 years old. I am an artist and CG Animator and recently football has become part of my inspiration.   Check out mothercityreds.co.za for a look inside our humble little club, where we meet up with many other Reds fans and sing our hearts out, week in and week out! nonadult false Red_LoKO user 18 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=46996008&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_19085978_173471_46996008_ap_160X120.jpg false 1 46996008 46996008 Kopite 800 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Rumour-has-it/blog/6531946/173471.html So, the season's finally over (gutted!!!!), and the rumour mill is already at full pelt. Kolo Toure on a free (although what would his wage 'demands' be?). Papodopoulos for £12m. Andy Carroll supposedly to West Ham on the cheap, done and dusted (but have you noticed that nothing's been posted on the LFC website. Don't you think that they'd have broken with it by now?). Yes, I'd take Kolo, for his experience, and Pap's could prove to be a snip, if he's as good as they say he is. The thing is, we need to move fast but efficiently, so as not to get mugged. People still want to come to Liverpool. We are still (rightly) seen as one of the biggest clubs in the world, but sometimes that sort of tag can be a burden, and bump up asking prices. By getting in early, we have time to negotiate. To sort out the wheat from the chaff. We did well in the last transfer window. Let's hope it's same again this time, as 'close season' becomes 'open season'. YNWA. Always. J4T96.x So, the season's finally over (gutted!!!!), and the rumour mill is already at full pelt. Kolo Toure on a free (although what would his wage 'demands' be?). Papodopoulos for £12m. Andy Carroll supposedly to West Ham on the cheap, done and dusted (but have you noticed that nothing's been posted on the LFC website. Don't you think that they'd have broken with it by now?). Yes, I'd take Kolo, for his experience, and Pap's could prove to be a snip, if he's as good as they say he is. The thing is, we need to move fast but efficiently, so as not to get mugged. People still want to come to Liverpool. We are still (rightly) seen as one of the biggest clubs in the world, but sometimes that sort of tag can be a burden, and bump up asking prices. By getting in early, we have time to negotiate. To sort out the wheat from the chaff. We did well in the last transfer window. Let's hope it's same again this time, as 'close season' becomes 'open season'. YNWA. Always. J4T96.x Tue, 21 May 2013 21:27:34 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Rumour-has-it/blog/6531946/173471.html Musicman71 2013-05-21T21:27:34Z The Kop So, the season's finally over (gutted!!!!), and the rumour mill is already at full pelt. Kolo Toure on a free (although what would his wage 'demands' be?). Papodopoulos for £12m. Andy Carroll supposedly to West Ham on the cheap, done and dusted (but have you noticed that nothing's been posted on the LFC website. Don't you think that they'd have broken with it by now?). Yes, I'd take Kolo, for his experience, and Pap's could prove to be a snip, if he's as good as they say he is. The thing is, we need to move fast but efficiently, so as not to get mugged. People still want to come to Liverpool. We are still (rightly) seen as one of the biggest clubs in the world, but sometimes that sort of tag can be a burden, and bump up asking prices. By getting in early, we have time to negotiate. To sort out the wheat from the chaff. We did well in the last transfer window. Let's hope it's same again this time, as 'close season' becomes 'open season'. YNWA. Always. J4T96.x nonadult false Rumour has it.... text blog 324 0 0.0 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=40055073&as=173471 http://media.kickstatic.com/kickapps/images/173471/photos/PHOTO_18475977_173471_40055073_ap_160X120.jpg false 4 0 6531946 40055073 Silver 29385 http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Former-player-watch/blog/6531940/173471.html I was just looking at the league tables from Italy and noticed that Fiorentina finished 4th ahead of heavyweights Roma and Inter Milan.  Did some more searching and saw that former liverpool player Alberto Aquilani made 25 app and scored 7 goals and assisted in 6, not a bad tally. I myself have liked the classy midfielder and was one of the few fans who was hoping that Kenny would keep the midfield trio of Meireles, Gerrard and Aquilani, but I'm glad the move back to Italy has worked out well for him.  YNWA Alberto.  P.S - Maybe you could propogate Liverpool for your teammate Jovetic. Just a suggestion. lol I was just looking at the league tables from Italy and noticed that Fiorentina finished 4th ahead of heavyweights Roma and Inter Milan.  Did some more searching and saw that former liverpool player Alberto Aquilani made 25 app and scored 7 goals and assisted in 6, not a bad tally. I myself have liked the classy midfielder and was one of the few fans who was hoping that Kenny would keep the midfield trio of Meireles, Gerrard and Aquilani, but I'm glad the move back to Italy has worked out well for him.  YNWA Alberto.  P.S - Maybe you could propogate Liverpool for your teammate Jovetic. Just a suggestion. lol Tue, 21 May 2013 21:00:29 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Former-player-watch/blog/6531940/173471.html dbz 2013-05-21T21:00:29Z The Kop I was just looking at the league tables from Italy and noticed that Fiorentina finished 4th ahead of heavyweights Roma and Inter Milan.  Did some more searching and saw that former liverpool player Alberto Aquilani made 25 app and scored 7 goals and assisted in 6, not a bad tally. I myself have liked the classy midfielder and was one of the few fans who was hoping that Kenny would keep the midfield trio of Meireles, Gerrard and Aquilani, but I'm glad the move back to Italy has worked out well for him.  YNWA Alberto.  P.S - Maybe you could propogate Liverpool for your teammate Jovetic. 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Can't believe this. Let's bring back the big man and have a plan b. Or he could be the new Carra at the heart of the defence. There is doubt of the deal as Andy has said he wants to make it at Liverpool, so give a go, remember FA cup final, when he came on he turned the game. He can play with Luis and Sturridge. Luiis on the right, Sturridge on the left and Andy thru the middle, with the other two running off him, just a thought. Please feel free to leave your thoughts. Just seen that Liverpool have agreed £15 million for Andy Carroll. Can't believe this. Let's bring back the big man and have a plan b. Or he could be the new Carra at the heart of the defence. There is doubt of the deal as Andy has said he wants to make it at Liverpool, so give a go, remember FA cup final, when he came on he turned the game. He can play with Luis and Sturridge. Luiis on the right, Sturridge on the left and Andy thru the middle, with the other two running off him, just a thought. Please feel free to leave your thoughts. Tue, 21 May 2013 20:48:29 GMT http://thekop.liverpoolfc.com/_Andy-Carroll/blog/6531936/173471.html PhilU 2013-05-21T20:48:29Z The Kop Just seen that Liverpool have agreed £15 million for Andy Carroll. Can't believe this. Let's bring back the big man and have a plan b. Or he could be the new Carra at the heart of the defence. There is doubt of the deal as Andy has said he wants to make it at Liverpool, so give a go, remember FA cup final, when he came on he turned the game. He can play with Luis and Sturridge. Luiis on the right, Sturridge on the left and Andy thru the middle, with the other two running off him, just a thought. 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